Damn, nice shooting!
How Often Can You Run This?
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according to Dr. Dave, B is 500 (B-) to 649 (B+). fwiw. Which means Eric is A+
Speed control. This is a tough out, and like Stu said it could be an accurate Fargo reading.
No access to pro spec but I can run that as pictured probably 80% on my ProAm with standard pockets. (provided I'm hitting balls a couple times per week)
If you put the balls against the rails where they belong it's more like 60% I imagine.
Those shots are all in the 60 minute workout and the 6-pointed star drills.
Anyone who took lessons from Bert has been clubbed over the head with these shots for years lol.
I am currently switching back to maple shafts so I need to relearn the deflection to be consistent.
That’s wrong a mile. 500 on the nose is a low C.
Anyway it doesn’t matter today with FargoRate.
Not really but tell Dr Dave. He uses fargo rate as I said.
Oikawa
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rack 1: almost straight on 8, hard to get on 9 but got a thin cut and made
2: left thin on 8 but got good position for almost straight in 9
3: normal, good leaves except for 7->8, kept it easy otherwise
4: left a very thin 8 but made it and took hit to 9 pushing it out in the open
5: same as 4, also moved 9 after a very thin cut on 8
6: left straight in on 8, did rail first kick to pot it but left a very thin bridge shot on 9, angle was good for pot but hit it too soft and it didnt reach the pocket
7: left again very thin 8, made it but scratched with cb
8: textbook run, left a nice 20-40 degree cut on each shot for easy position, first time that got a really good position for the 7->8, every attempt this far had to draw the 8 with quite a lot of power or shoot it at awkward angle
9: again had to draw almost straight from 7 to 8, good pot and speed but caught the jaw on the way back and left CB center table, leaving a long table kick which i overcut
10: second time getting good position for 7->8, almost scratched on the way back for 8 but left it good and finished the run
result: 7/10
better than my guess of 3-5 score. definitely got lucky in the sense that had to make many tough recovery shots (thin cuts) that couldve easily been missed, and only 2 of 10 racks did i get good position for 7->8, others having to draw it quite hard or a few times do a thin cut. for opening strategy, first few attempts i placed CB near center table drawing it back there, but from attempts 3-10 i put CB near rail on other side of the 4 and similarly drew it back to center from there, felt more reliable to get good shape that way. overall a good effort for my standards, wouldve been happy with 5/10 or so. if you play this such that hitting the other balls counts as a loss, then it wouldve been a 5/10 since two racks i hit the 9 while potting 8.
another good result is that i never missed a shot between 4 and 7, always failing at 8 or 9, im happy with that.
also, note that i used balls 4-9 instead of 1-6 just so it feels more like a rack of 9-ball.
(Played on a 9ft Gold Crown, normal 4.5inch pockets. Wrote this all into my notepad app inbetween sets so didn't bother capitalizing etc. properly
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2: left thin on 8 but got good position for almost straight in 9
3: normal, good leaves except for 7->8, kept it easy otherwise
4: left a very thin 8 but made it and took hit to 9 pushing it out in the open
5: same as 4, also moved 9 after a very thin cut on 8
6: left straight in on 8, did rail first kick to pot it but left a very thin bridge shot on 9, angle was good for pot but hit it too soft and it didnt reach the pocket
7: left again very thin 8, made it but scratched with cb
8: textbook run, left a nice 20-40 degree cut on each shot for easy position, first time that got a really good position for the 7->8, every attempt this far had to draw the 8 with quite a lot of power or shoot it at awkward angle
9: again had to draw almost straight from 7 to 8, good pot and speed but caught the jaw on the way back and left CB center table, leaving a long table kick which i overcut
10: second time getting good position for 7->8, almost scratched on the way back for 8 but left it good and finished the run
result: 7/10
better than my guess of 3-5 score. definitely got lucky in the sense that had to make many tough recovery shots (thin cuts) that couldve easily been missed, and only 2 of 10 racks did i get good position for 7->8, others having to draw it quite hard or a few times do a thin cut. for opening strategy, first few attempts i placed CB near center table drawing it back there, but from attempts 3-10 i put CB near rail on other side of the 4 and similarly drew it back to center from there, felt more reliable to get good shape that way. overall a good effort for my standards, wouldve been happy with 5/10 or so. if you play this such that hitting the other balls counts as a loss, then it wouldve been a 5/10 since two racks i hit the 9 while potting 8.
another good result is that i never missed a shot between 4 and 7, always failing at 8 or 9, im happy with that.
also, note that i used balls 4-9 instead of 1-6 just so it feels more like a rack of 9-ball.
(Played on a 9ft Gold Crown, normal 4.5inch pockets. Wrote this all into my notepad app inbetween sets so didn't bother capitalizing etc. properly
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One nitty point; Fargos are a competitive metric. Drills should be considered separately. I see implications that this drill carries a Fargo rating, a high one at that. (bah humbug)
It's a drill. Should be requisite from the 3s on.
Got out on 2nd try. I tried it 5 times. Got out 3/5.
Got out on the 2nd,4th and 5th tries. I’m a 586 Fargo.
Full disclosure: I shot 80 random balls first but never practiced any of these shots specifically beforehand. I was surprised. I thought it would be lower percentage.
Got out on the 2nd,4th and 5th tries. I’m a 586 Fargo.
Full disclosure: I shot 80 random balls first but never practiced any of these shots specifically beforehand. I was surprised. I thought it would be lower percentage.
A B- is the most common player ranking, and it should be in the center of the bell curve. A 590 to 610 is a solid B which is right ahead of the curve, slightly better than an average player. So your guess is probably accurate.
Joe Tuckers 10x 10 ball run out has been very accurate in measuring skill, where each ball is a point from the break (BIH) and 50 points is a B.
BuffaloSlim
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I just watched this video a week or 2 ago when it popped up in my YouTube feed and am going to run this drill in my next practice session. I like Niels and his videos style of explanations
That's strong, bucket or not, would love to see it. Just live stream on Youtube or Facebook and post a link here to see what you got out of 10 tries
Be honest and disclose if you've practiced for 5 hours before going live
I'm not your circus bearThat's strong, bucket or not, would love to see it. Just live stream on Youtube or Facebook and post a link here to see what you got out of 10 tries
Be honest and disclose if you've practiced for 5 hours before going live
I play better out of the gate than after a few racks.That's strong, bucket or not, would love to see it. Just live stream on Youtube or Facebook and post a link here to see what you got out of 10 tries
Be honest and disclose if you've practiced for 5 hours before going live
I focus more and the balls just go in.
I then begin taking shots for granted, not staying down, or playing riskier shots for the aesthetics.
I have been meaning to mount a camera in my room. I'll get to it one day.
its the same basic shot on all of them and so if you are not making it then your speed control is poor.
work on that. unless you are not good enough to make medium distance cut shots.
even iusedtoberich whose speed control was weaker on these cut across the table shots , but had great shooting ability made it most times.
and when got out of position just took a different route.
work on that. unless you are not good enough to make medium distance cut shots.
even iusedtoberich whose speed control was weaker on these cut across the table shots , but had great shooting ability made it most times.
and when got out of position just took a different route.
How bout 2 wild caught salmons
Honestly, given 30 mins warm up, I'll be super impressed for any under 600 Fargo (B-/C+ range) who can make it 2 out of 10 tries or better (5/10 if you 600-700 Fargo), on this drill on 4.25" pocket 9 footer.
I'm not putting any videos online.How bout 2 wild caught salmons
Honestly, given 30 mins warm up, I'll be super impressed for any under 600 Fargo (B-/C+ range) who can make it 2 out of 10 tries or better (5/10 if you 600-700 Fargo), on this drill on 4.25" pocket 9 footer.
Maybe I'm just old but, I have no interest in doing that.
I hate it when they want to take pictures when you win a tournament and post it online.
I don't think amateur tournaments need to be live streamed. Who wants to watch that?
It is not my cup of tea.
I have no interest in impressing anyone.
I play to compete. That's it. Should I get lucky enough to win anything other than $ in competitions like trophy's or the like, they go straight into the garbage or get donated.
Dr. Cue posted a cool drill, I tried it a few times and posted how it when down. It's just for fun. You can take it at face value or not.
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This speaks only to the state of play and not the "difficulty" of the drill. In that regard, it's a big clue to the decline of murkhan pool accomplishment.How bout 2 wild caught salmons
Honestly, given 30 mins warm up, I'll be super impressed for any under 600 Fargo (B-/C+ range) who can make it 2 out of 10 tries or better (5/10 if you 600-700 Fargo), on this drill on 4.25" pocket 9 footer.
I believe you!!! my 2 salmons are still up for grab anytime though
Whatever you tried to say, this is a very tough but practical drill to me, really good for A to Pro level players. Any less players will probably have a hard time just making balls, let alone cue ball control.
Flakeandrun
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Chinese love a good drill. I know a guy who completes the most insane drills, but goes tits up whenever put in front of another player. The game is more mental than anything else. That's why the players with money in the bank, or those backed by sponsors, or the 'right people', float to the top. They have a significant amount of pressure relaxed, and it's easier to get out there and do the thanggg.