These drills are always BIH. Would you rely on another poster's starting position to plan an entire runout? Hell no, even if it was Efren.
How Often Can You Run This?
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In order..2/10,3/10
That's a challenge or I just play bad.
That's a challenge or I just play bad.
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Where did he start? Nuther mystery, what's the toughest starting position you can still get out?
You can, just depends on the angle you leave yourself. I think Maha is right, all those shots are basically the same. About a 40 degree angle on each with a different speed on the last ones that need greater distance.
My take on these drills is if you are unable to do this runout at a high percent, and the reason is stroke inaccuracy, which it probably is, then we should step back and concentrate on getting that stroke down to the 1 mm accuracy that Mark Wilson refers to. Isolate the issue and work mostly on that issue.
What is your percentage?
I struggled with the speed control in the beginning. I just tried it again and got 5/10.
One position error and you're off to the races.
I haven’t tried it yet, although it’s basically a modified Bert Kinister drill that I have been doing for years. When I get off work tomorrow I’ll give you answer on that %.
lol. nobody in this thread is doing that. You can take ball in hand on the 4 and still not getting out with low outside on the 5 to 6. "you" is not you personally.
I’m not speaking for everyone. I just backed up what MAHA stated in that all these shots can be made fairly easily with varying degrees of low, outside. The only time I would use anything different is if I overrun position and get too straight in.
Edit: this is basically a low outside drill.
Going rail to rail 5 to 6 is fundamental; forward or backward. IOW low outside coming back at you and dying on the third rail or just inside english and going forward for the mirror image. There should be no issue with that except those irrelevant percentages - which only speak to individual competence. No can? It's not magic. Break it down and learn.
I know how to play. And I can run out. The whole discussion was specifically about going from the 5 to the 6. And it is unlikely that anyone is going to get the perfect shape every time to play the 5 with low outside to get on the 6.
Fairly easy? I don't think so. You are going to miss position and have to play something else. That was/is my point.
Part of the drill _is_ position. How perfect is 30 degrees give or take 10, 20 degrees?
perfect in this example is the angle necessary to play low outside to get from the 5 to the 6. Maybe 30 +/- 5. otherwise you want to shoot something else or position is difficult.
You are correct there. Mental geometry is not a strong suit.
Still, there's lots of "zone" for this drill.
Here are 3 of my outs from the other day. All the dead space is cut out, 2 min total length.
IMO, not even a pro would have the same shot from ball to ball. Ball rolls a hair more or less, or angle slightly higher or lower, and the out is completely different. Plus, having done it now 3 sessions, I don't think the same angle on each shot is even the best way to get out, even if you had BIH on each of the 6 shots.
After seeing yours I had the balls way too close to the rail. I thought it said 1/4" off. I can't read
The 4/5 was giving me nightmares.
You aren't kidding about being just a little off makes it way harder. I got to 5 but that included a bank on the 5 one rack. It's tough.
low outside off the rail gives you some of the largest areas to drop the due ball into and still get position after the next ball. and easiest to control.
going from 5 to 6 with inside english and one rail or two isnt the easiest but okay for some
going up and down no english if too hard or soft gets you way off rather than outside and hitting two rails after the first or one long rail depending on your leave..
plus if you dont get enough angle you can always draw 3 or 4 rails to get position which is relatively easy as you cueball dies off the long rail before the 6 ball.
and like fuggles if you have a better way which works for you do it that way. he says he is a runout player so his way is probably valid.
and "most" all the shots if played like that could get you to position enough on wherever the next ball was on the table.
that might be the drill you need to experiment with after you get this one down pat.
going from 5 to 6 with inside english and one rail or two isnt the easiest but okay for some
going up and down no english if too hard or soft gets you way off rather than outside and hitting two rails after the first or one long rail depending on your leave..
plus if you dont get enough angle you can always draw 3 or 4 rails to get position which is relatively easy as you cueball dies off the long rail before the 6 ball.
and like fuggles if you have a better way which works for you do it that way. he says he is a runout player so his way is probably valid.
and "most" all the shots if played like that could get you to position enough on wherever the next ball was on the table.
that might be the drill you need to experiment with after you get this one down pat.
Now that I have the balls in the right place I put up a 4/10, that one hurt my feelings a little.
Next, 8/10. Having a balls width off the rail helped a ton.
I might give it another go tonight.
Fun drill
Next, 8/10. Having a balls width off the rail helped a ton.
I might give it another go tonight.
Fun drill
That's some good shooting there iusedtoberich!
May I ask:
Is that a Gold Crown?
And what kind of cloth is that?
That table appears to play faster than my GCIV.
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