How Often Can You Run This?

Honestly, given 30 mins warm up, I'll be super impressed for any under 600 Fargo (B-/C+ range) who can make it 2 out of 10 tries or better (5/10 if you 600-700 Fargo), on this drill on 4.25" pocket 9 footer.
I have no rating and used this as a warm up, playing on 4" Rasson and made it 5 in 5 last night. Had a game come up in the middle. Cold weather, and fresh cloth. So, a little bit of slide helped on the odd occasion.
I think most players who are not at my local hall for 'date night' and consider themselves players, would be able to get a pretty solid return.
I quite like Neils Feijen's version of this where he rotates the balls to different positions. That's a decent test.
I wouldn't really tie drills to Fargo. As I said in the post above, dicking around on your own is psychologically different to playing another. As would be putting a bit of money on the drill. Or the difference between a cash game and tournament play.
Pool is 99% psychology 1% variables in equipment (once you reach a certain point of playing time)
 
I have no rating and used this as a warm up, playing on 4" Rasson and made it 5 in 5 last night. Had a game come up in the middle. Cold weather, and fresh cloth. So, a little bit of slide helped on the odd occasion.
I think most players who are not at my local hall for 'date night' and consider themselves players, would be able to get a pretty solid return.
I quite like Neils Feijen's version of this where he rotates the balls to different positions. That's a decent test.
I wouldn't really tie drills to Fargo. As I said in the post above, dicking around on your own is psychologically different to playing another. As would be putting a bit of money on the drill. Or the difference between a cash game and tournament play.
Pool is 99% psychology 1% variables in equipment (once you reach a certain point of playing time)
I totally believe you. Bet 5 salmons!!!

p/s: What happened to the original picture of the layout, I can't see it anymore...?
 
I believe you!!! my 2 salmons are still up for grab anytime though :LOL:


Whatever you tried to say, this is a very tough but practical drill to me, really good for A to Pro level players. Any less players will probably have a hard time just making balls, let alone cue ball control.
This is my point without the sting. Any Fargo rating is based on progress through a field of failure. I know - Schpawts. Call it the jock folly (duh) Consider also, the lower levels. How to beat them? Um be better?

Players discover that accessing the fail points of the competition wins; and they settle. They continue improving but only a few ticks if that. They might put it together for a season but burn hot and probably out. Nothing to do with competence.

Chinese love a good drill. I know a guy who completes the most insane drills, but goes tits up whenever put in front of another player. The game is more mental than anything else. That's why the players with money in the bank, or those backed by sponsors, or the 'right people', float to the top. They have a significant amount of pressure relaxed, and it's easier to get out there and do the thanggg.
This is true and yet knowing where the wins are saps the improvement. See previous ^^^

Where do the Kos and Fillers and Gorsts come from?

I say competence. The so called talent is a manifestation of that competence and probably resides more in the minds of the field than in the greats themselves.

Making a teacher(like) stand because players need to develop their innate abilities - and especially basic drills like the one being discussed - without the brain damage the veteran's angle would seed. Do cue makers discuss choking the rings or points? Maybe the joint but I'm pretty sure that's not discussed. Much.
YET, by my reckoning, making fine cues is a craft a hundredfold more precise than any pool skill or encounter. Further, the best makers are thoroughly versed in _all_ the steps or it don't come out right.

Rant done.

Unless it comes up again. :ROFLMAO:
 
This is my point without the sting. Any Fargo rating is based on progress through a field of failure. I know - Schpawts. Call it the jock folly (duh) Consider also, the lower levels. How to beat them? Um be better?

Players discover that accessing the fail points of the competition wins; and they settle. They continue improving but only a few ticks if that. They might put it together for a season but burn hot and probably out. Nothing to do with competence.


This is true and yet knowing where the wins are saps the improvement. See previous ^^^

Where do the Kos and Fillers and Gorsts come from?

I say competence. The so called talent is a manifestation of that competence and probably resides more in the minds of the field than in the greats themselves.

Making a teacher(like) stand because players need to develop their innate abilities - and especially basic drills like the one being discussed - without the brain damage the veteran's angle would seed. Do cue makers discuss choking the rings or points? Maybe the joint but I'm pretty sure that's not discussed. Much.
YET, by my reckoning, making fine cues is a craft a hundredfold more precise than any pool skill or encounter. Further, the best makers are thoroughly versed in _all_ the steps or it don't come out right.

Rant done.

Unless it comes up again. :ROFLMAO:
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Where do the Kos and Fillers and Gorsts come from?
Time, money and opportunity
I say competence. The so called talent is a manifestation of that competence and probably resides more in the minds of the field than in the greats themselves.
I agree with you. There are talented people who do not have that mental competence to succeed. That predominately comes down to the perceived gamble of their time, money and ultimately lack of the opportunity to compete on the level playing field with those that do, which gets brought into match time.
 
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It was essentially a similar model to this but with 8 and 9 on the top and bottom rail.

I would say doing Neils version with variation of the position of balls after each completed round adds a bit of spice to an otherwise inoccuous drill.
The balls are froze to the rail as well. Makes my posts look conceited. :p

Oh well...
 
DCP’s layout is 1 ball off the rail, as he stated. When I set it up I used the CB as a spacer and froze each OB to it, then slid the CB out.

DCP’s first pic used balls 1-6, but later pic used balls 4-9 (same pattern). When discussing shots, some ppl may be referring to a different pic.

Neils’ drills are all frozen. I personally didn’t think that made sense, and when I do his, I put the balls approximately 1/4” away.
 
DCP’s layout is 1 ball off the rail, as he stated. When I set it up I used the CB as a spacer and froze each OB to it, then slid the CB out.

DCP’s first pic used balls 1-6, but later pic used balls 4-9 (same pattern). When discussing shots, some ppl may be referring to a different pic.

Neils’ drills are all frozen. I personally didn’t think that made sense, and when I do his, I put the balls approximately 1/4” away.
My bad, I thought object balls are on the rails. I was like, sheet even pros may not even making balls, you guys keep talking about 8/10, 7/10 LOL.

Probably 18% - 25% easier this way, now it's much more tolerant to practice for 500 - 600 Fargo (C/B--)
 
Here are 3 of my outs from the other day. All the dead space is cut out, 2 min total length.

The only opinion that should be respected on this specific thread because you actually provide video proof of your attempts.

Everything else is just conjecture and whining. Let me add mine:

Tried this drill yesterday, ran it 10 out of 10 times. You just have to take my word for it though. Too EZZZZZZZZ
 
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