You're more accurate now because you spent more time being aware of where you are hitting the CB.
Had you taken the same approach in regards to center CB, then you would have been just as accurate.
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You're more accurate now because you spent more time being aware of where you are hitting the CB.
Had you taken the same approach in regards to center CB, then you would have been just as accurate.
I'm related to "One Eyed Tony" - He's my uncle, a life long book maker.
If you owed him money he would keep an eye out for you!
Seriously, great stuff here by CJ. Once I decide on a shot, after looking at the table from a distance, I get down lined up with the shot.
Before shooting I visualize the shot in my mind and what ever adjustments I make in stroke speed and spin are done after I'm down, while I'm stroking.
Those adjustments are all 100% mentally calculated by feel or perception or what ever, but they are not calculated by looking at the layout of the table. Rather from a mental image of the layout.
I think this is what you are saying, please correct me if I am wrong.
Good rolls.
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You my friend have a lot to learn in many departments.
Enjoy the ride of learning :wink:
Actually I can create a larger margin of error in the same way tennis players do it with topspin and golfers do it with "drawing and fading" the golf ball. We call these "zones" and it's vital to recognize how to create "approach angles" to relate and utilize these advanced techniques.<--?????
"We can only recognize what we're familiar with - familiarize yourself with the deeper levels of pool and they will be revealed" - CJ Wiley <--????? (this makes even less sense than your first statement) 'The Game is the Teacher'
You never cease to amaze me, the amount of double-talk you use to explain the most basic pool fundamentals !...
..Good player's (including me) have been "cheating pockets", long before you were born !.. It is VERY OLD news !
But, congratulations for re-inventing it, and calling it something else ! (your fan's are thrilled, but confused)
SJD..(the golf sucker
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I'm was a big fan of "One Eyed Tony" - he shot down many a pool player
That's awesome, I'm was a big fan of "One Eyed Tony" - he shot down many a pool player and had the "heart of a lion" - I actually patterned my mental game after hearing stories of Tony and how strong he was when traveling around Kentucky. Back then Kentucky was full of pool players that loved to gamble and I must have played a hundred of them over the years....I'm not sure where Tony was originally from, although the stories I heard were based out of Kentucky.
It's ok to make adjustments when you're down on the ball, however, I'd warn against moving the cue side to side (off it's "track") and suggest moving it more up and down on the vertical axis (much like a see/saw with the shoulder/arm/wrist). I do this and it's hardly noticeable, and it's to feel the connection from my entire arm and shoulder to my tip......this is generally what I have to teach students, it's not natural in most cases.
That's awesome, I'm was a big fan of "One Eyed Tony" - he shot down many a pool player and had the "heart of a lion" - I actually patterned my mental game after hearing stories of Tony and how strong he was when traveling around Kentucky. Back then Kentucky was full of pool players that loved to gamble and I must have played a hundred of them over the years....I'm not sure where Tony was originally from, although the stories I heard were based out of Kentucky.
It's ok to make adjustments when you're down on the ball, however, I'd warn against moving the cue side to side (off it's "track") and suggest moving it more up and down on the vertical axis (much like a see/saw with the shoulder/arm/wrist). I do this and it's hardly noticeable, and it's to feel the connection from my entire arm and shoulder to my tip......this is generally what I have to teach students, it's not natural in most cases.
I'll do my best to get you out of confusion.....just make sure you're willing
I'm glad your thrilled, and I'll do my best to get you out of confusion.....just make sure you're willing to change outdated ideas, beliefs, and conceptions of the game.
'The Game is Our Teacher'
I'm glad your thrilled, and I'll do my best to get you out of confusion.....just make sure you're willing to change outdated ideas, beliefs, and conceptions of the game.
'The Game is Our Teacher'
You never cease to amaze me, the amount of double-talk you use to explain the most basic pool fundamentals !...
..Good player's (including me) have been "cheating pockets", long before you were born !.. It is VERY OLD news !
But, congratulations for re-inventing it, and calling it something else ! (your fan's are thrilled, but confused)
SJD..(the golf sucker
what's real and what's imagined....spending more time "being aware"
It's obvious that you're trying to learn - maybe just stuck in your own confusion of what's real and what's imagined....spending more time "being aware" of where you're hitting the cue ball won't make someone more accurate....it's actually counter productive.
It's obvious that you're trying to learn - maybe just stuck in your own confusion of what's real and what's imagined....spending more time "being aware" of where you're hitting the cue ball won't make someone more accurate....it's actually counter productive.
Except that's one what needs to do when learning TOI.
If the goal is to hit a hair to the inside of center, then that's where the focus must be during the learning process. Obviously like anything, it should get to the point where it's at a subconscious level.
Personally, I don't favor any one spot on the CB. It's all about what the current shot requires.
.develop a strong shot and use it as a powerful foundation - master TOI or TOO
If you're focusing on "what the current shot requires" you are being controlled by each situation. It may be time to take control of your game and not be a "victim of circumstance"....the fact is you can play the game using TOI the majority of the time.....you can also use TOO if prefered, the one thing I would NOT recommend is ignorance of what you're going to do rack to rack, shot to shot.....develop a strong shot and use it as a powerful foundation - it's better to be "master of one {shot}, than jack of all {shots}" - The Game is the Teacher
If you're focusing on "what the current shot requires" you are being controlled by each situation. It may be time to take control of your game and not be a "victim of circumstance"....the fact is you can play the game using TOI the majority of the time.....you can also use TOO if prefered, the one thing I would NOT recommend is ignorance of what you're going to do rack to rack, shot to shot.....develop a strong shot and use it as a powerful foundation - it's better to be "master of one {shot}, than jack of all {shots}" - The Game is the Teacher
a track/slot that makes it virtually impossible to not hit the cue ball straight.
In all fairness, when discussing things that are "outside the norm" it usually takes a variety or combination of explanations before it's truly understood. I take it for granted since, in person I have a mental list of 3 themes of explanations, and a few variations of specific details that are proven (in my experience) to get someone in the "understanding mode" quickly.
I have heard other players compare my grip to the "V Grip", I know Mr. Brett, but don't know what he teaches. If there are similarities in my grip and the movement I suggest with the wrist/fingers I wouldn't be surprised, and like all my techniques they are what I personally use and have found to be the most effective.
I know my grip has been questioned and talked about, and I did go over it in my original 'Ultimate Pool Secrets' using a sword, however I resisted going into great detail.
Concerning firmness: I practice on both ends of the spectrum in this respect. I will squeeze the cue, cock it and play with a firm grip and sometimes I only use two fingers (using thumb/first two fingers) with a very light grip pressure if I'm working on Touch/Finesse/Feel shots.
I play with a firm, controlled pressure, that gives {ME} the ideal balance between power and touch. I use the same pressure when playing golf or tennis as well and played all three games at the same time for several years when in my early teenage years (although I played golf left handed).
I cock my wrist on all shots, and just less on finesse or slow rolled shots. However, my main objective, in Buddy Hall fashion is to hit most shots the same speed and as in my example cock up to eye level from my hip. Then I take my practice stokes BEFORE I get down on the shot, not after.
My main objective is to cock my wrist/fingers in such a way to create a track/slot that makes it virtually impossible to not hit the cue ball straight.
Yes, the stroke (for me) is a pushing motion that extends the tip through the cue ball. When players on here talk about pulling the cue they lose me because I can't relate to that at all. Notice I don't tell them they are full of "BS", "crazy", "trying to con people" "say they are talking nonsense", I JUST simply am "quietly confused" and can't relate to why they play in that way.
The TOUCH of Inside technique I have explained in many ways. First off, I do not try to spin the cue ball, I just "cue it" to the inside. This creates a situation that slightly overcuts the object ball. When combined with this "Wrist/Finger Stroke" it is DEADLY ACCURATE and expands the Pocket Zone by an impressive margin. Someone that aims at the center of the pocket and uses center ball can't win with the 5/7 playing 9 Ball.
I'm not boasting, just stating a fact, when you learn to use the 3 Part Pocket System and look at the pocket as a Zone (and learn to pre set your hand so you hit the cue ball straight every time), the Game changes and becomes possible to play without error for hours at a time.
I'm not claiming to be "better" than the players {on this Forum} that don't understand my techniques, I'm simply playing a different Game than they are. 'The Game is the Teacher' www.cjwiley.com
In all fairness, when discussing things that are "outside the norm" it usually takes a variety or combination of explanations before it's truly understood. I take it for granted since, in person I have a mental list of 3 themes of explanations, and a few variations of specific details that are proven (in my experience) to get someone in the "understanding mode" quickly.
I have heard other players compare my grip to the "V Grip", I know Mr. Brett, but don't know what he teaches. If there are similarities in my grip and the movement I suggest with the wrist/fingers I wouldn't be surprised, and like all my techniques they are what I personally use and have found to be the most effective.
I know my grip has been questioned and talked about, and I did go over it in my original 'Ultimate Pool Secrets' using a sword, however I resisted going into great detail.
Concerning firmness: I practice on both ends of the spectrum in this respect. I will squeeze the cue, cock it and play with a firm grip and sometimes I only use two fingers (using thumb/first two fingers) with a very light grip pressure if I'm working on Touch/Finesse/Feel shots.
I play with a firm, controlled pressure, that gives {ME} the ideal balance between power and touch. I use the same pressure when playing golf or tennis as well and played all three games at the same time for several years when in my early teenage years (although I played golf left handed).
I cock my wrist on all shots, and just less on finesse or slow rolled shots. However, my main objective, in Buddy Hall fashion is to hit most shots the same speed and as in my example cock up to eye level from my hip. Then I take my practice stokes BEFORE I get down on the shot, not after.
My main objective is to cock my wrist/fingers in such a way to create a track/slot that makes it virtually impossible to not hit the cue ball straight.
Yes, the stroke (for me) is a pushing motion that extends the tip through the cue ball. When players on here talk about pulling the cue they lose me because I can't relate to that at all. Notice I don't tell them they are full of "BS", "crazy", "trying to con people" "say they are talking nonsense", I JUST simply am "quietly confused" and can't relate to why they play in that way.
The TOUCH of Inside technique I have explained in many ways. First off, I do not try to spin the cue ball, I just "cue it" to the inside. This creates a situation that slightly overcuts the object ball. When combined with this "Wrist/Finger Stroke" it is DEADLY ACCURATE and expands the Pocket Zone by an impressive margin. Someone that aims at the center of the pocket and uses center ball can't win with the 5/7 playing 9 Ball.
I'm not boasting, just stating a fact, when you learn to use the 3 Part Pocket System and look at the pocket as a Zone (and learn to pre set your hand so you hit the cue ball straight every time), the Game changes and becomes possible to play without error for hours at a time.
I'm not claiming to be "better" than the players {on this Forum} that don't understand my techniques, I'm simply playing a different Game than they are. 'The Game is the Teacher' www.cjwiley.com
I appreciate your input and you can quote me anytime about anything.
Not at all, bud, I appreciate your input and you can quote me anytime about anything. :yeah:'The Game is OUR Teacher'
Not at all, bud, I appreciate your input and you can quote me anytime about anything. :yeah:'The Game is OUR Teacher'