How to improve the sport

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JoeW

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Based on Road player wins and want to be anonymous thread

Tournaments should have a photo ID and photo taken before or during the tournament. Results posted to the net. If you get caught with false ID it is broadcast to everyone who may refuse you entrance to a tournament or a room.

This would improve the game because it needs to be improved.

I think the room owners should publish a room ladder. I designed and wrote one for BCA. It was published with several others as co-authors.

If you don?t want to play on the ladder, the room owner will place you there at his discretion, with your name and photo.

In this way the sleazy players and the sleazy rooms can all group together. The rest of us enjoy the sport, not the hustling.
 
Nice idea, but it would be difficult to accomplish IMO. I have found that the game of pool seems to "like" being disjointed and discombobulated.
 
well an open event means open to all! when you play in an open event then surely you expect great players to be in the field right? just another case of worry about your game and your matches instead of worrying about a player being there that you dont know.when i play these tournaments i dont give a damn who i play and you will have to out perform me because im not gonna lay down and beat myself.
 
Neil said:
If you really want to improve the sport, I think the first thing you have to do is make it a sport.

I've always been on the side of it being a sport vs. just a game. But that's looking from the inside- out. Looking at it from the outside -in, It does appear as a game. What other sport that you can think of has different rules everywhere you go? I can't think of any.

So, imho, the FIRST thing to be done, is to get ONE TRUE governing body, and one set of rules. But, of course, this is not likely to happen because none of the current 'governing' bodies would be willing to give the title to someone else. None of them care enough about the sport to all get together and make a unifiying body. Let alone to change rules to one set of rules for everbody.

Without these two things, I think the general populace can not possibly see it as anything other than a game.
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you mentioned sport vs game - thought it interesting when i visited one of the top television sport websites and saw that poker was considered a sport and not a game. strange but true.
 
If you want to better the sport then we need sponsors. Take a quick look at the X games right now on ESPN. These kids have multiple earings in their lips and hair 3 different colors, yet they still have MAJOR sponsorship. You should see all the sponsors. Monster energy drink sponsors several of these guys, why can't they sponsor a pool player or tournament?
 
I still laugh, even today, at some of the names I see on tournament charts. Obvious phoneys.
 
The idea is based on the idea that a hustler would use a false name to gain entrance to a tournament for A/B players. And or use a false method to buy himself cheap in a Calcutta.

There are (and probably always will be) hustlers. This idea merely separates those who hustle from those who do not. It would also separate the rooms where we could send our children from the back rooms.

Methods are needed that will improve the image of pool playing from pastime to sport. I think that there are many who agree. If this is true then let's find a way to rid sport of the hustler to the extent possible.

I am not suggesting that hustlers be eliminated only that they be excluded from the sport to the extent possible. We could raise a whole new crop of player ? sportsperson.

OK I'll get down off this horse -- it is just not a position I want to defend. I merely recommend it as a consideration for new room owners and TDs. Might start a whole new trend.

We won't find sponsors until WE clean up our act.
 
Yep, many high-end would-be sponsors are put off by the negative image in pool that still exists and IMO until that has changed significantly then they will continue to funnel their $$$ elsewhere such as poker, x-games, etc. They are around to do legitimate business, and they don't want black clouds over their heads because it is bad for business.
 
I know this one all too well

No Illusions said:
If you want to better the sport then we need sponsors. Take a quick look at the X games right now on ESPN. These kids have multiple earings in their lips and hair 3 different colors, yet they still have MAJOR sponsorship. You should see all the sponsors. Monster energy drink sponsors several of these guys, why can't they sponsor a pool player or tournament?
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There once was a time...

Skateboarders were the hoodlums, same with snowboarding.
I can tell you firsthand.
Unless you train like you're in the olympics, a pro skater's lifespan
in the sport isn't very long.
IMHO the international tourneys are the ones that get people pulling
for their favorite players. All those teams in all those bars cheering
on their countrymen. We NEED beer sponsors!!
 
There is a boxer, a ballet dancer and a physician who all carry this name.

But come on Jimmy, you could take on a bantem weight. If he gave you any he wouldn't be here.
 
I think it might just save me some tax dollars if my employer allowed me to earn money anonymously. In some circles, deliberately concealing one's identity and failing to pay tax on income earned with anonymity is called tax fraud. onsciously assisting an effort to conceal income is, in some circles, considered unethical, even illegal.

Legitimate business is not conducted in this manner.
 
coopdeville said:
There once was a time...

Skateboarders were the hoodlums, same with snowboarding.
I can tell you firsthand.
Unless you train like you're in the olympics, a pro skater's lifespan
in the sport isn't very long.
IMHO the international tourneys are the ones that get people pulling
for their favorite players. All those teams in all those bars cheering
on their countrymen. We NEED beer sponsors!!
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No doubt about it... Pool shouldn't expect the banks, airlines, fast food restaurants, etc. that are so big in other sports because the demographic is different. Really, the key is beer, liquor, and I also think those energy drinks are perfect. Go after companies that themselves, are a little edgy.:p
 
Neil said:
If you really want to improve the sport, I think the first thing you have to do is make it a sport.

I've always been on the side of it being a sport vs. just a game. But that's looking from the inside- out. Looking at it from the outside -in, It does appear as a game. What other sport that you can think of has different rules everywhere you go? I can't think of any.

So, imho, the FIRST thing to be done, is to get ONE TRUE governing body, and one set of rules. But, of course, this is not likely to happen because none of the current 'governing' bodies would be willing to give the title to someone else. None of them care enough about the sport to all get together and make a unifiying body. Let alone to change rules to one set of rules for everbody.

Without these two things, I think the general populace can not possibly see it as anything other than a game.
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Tap, Tap, Tap. My thoughts exactly. Rep for you
 
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