how to tell dominant eye

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I'm confused. I usually shoot chin on cue, tonight I cocked my head a bit, put my cue on my left side of my chin and I seemed to "see" better.

I shoot guns right eyed and always thought I was right eyed dominant...

How can I tell with my billiards vision?
 
And yes I did try the search function first before posting this. But couldn't my find anything :)
 
Hold both your hands out in front of your face. make a very small hole with

your thumbs and pointing finger. Like a small diamond shape is the best way

to describe it. Now when you make a small hole look through that hole at an

object on the wall. example, maybe a nail hole in your wall. Bring your hands

slowly to your face towards your eyes and keep that object in that "hole."

it will either come to your left eye or right eye. Best I can explain. If you

need more explanation I can PM you
 
This will work for about 75% of the people

smallfry419 said:
Hold both your hands out in front of your face. make a very small hole with

your thumbs and pointing finger. Like a small diamond shape is the best way

to describe it. Now when you make a small hole look through that hole at an

object on the wall. example, maybe a nail hole in your wall. Bring your hands

slowly to your face towards your eyes and keep that object in that "hole."

it will either come to your left eye or right eye. Best I can explain. If you

need more explanation I can PM you
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The other 25% flat out flunk this test and the wrong eye comes up as dominant.

When your down on the shot is the best way to positively find your pool shooting dominant eye.

When you move your head to the right you can see the left eye is doing the majority of the aiming. To the left you can see the right eye is.

One way will look real good and the other kind of cross eyed.

The first 6 months I taught Perfect Aim I used this pointing or through the hole test to try and find the dominant eye. There is nothing medically to explain this but there is now something medically to explain why Perfect Aim is helping so many players improve so much.

It all has to do with the retinal field of vision.

I know the secret to why this dominant eye test doesn't work for everyone is there. I just don't know how to find the reason medically or explain why.

It just is the way it is. I see it over and over again.

I can't believe how many players are forcing the wrong eye to be dominant making their aim as bad as possible.

They are trying to believe that not so reliable test. :eek:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocular_dominance

"A person's dominant eye "is determined by subjective alignment of two objects presented at a stereodisparity far beyond Panum's area".[18] There are a number of ways to do this:

The Miles test. The observer extends both arms, brings both hands together to create a small opening, then with both eyes open views a distant object through the opening. The observer then alternates closing the eyes or slowly draws opening back to the head to determine which eye is viewing the object (i.e. the dominant eye)[19][1].
The Porta test. The observer extends one arm, then with both eyes open aligns the thumb or index finger with a distant object. The observer then alternates closing the eyes or slowly draws the thumb/finger back to the head to determine which eye is viewing the object (i.e. the dominant eye) [19][2] [3].
The Dolman method also known as the hole-in-the-card test. The subject is given a card with a small hole in the middle, instructed to hold it with both hands, then instructed to view a distant object through the hole with both eyes open. The observer then alternates closing the eyes or slowly draws the opening back to the head to determine which eye is viewing the object (i.e. the dominant eye).[12]
The convergence near-point test. The subject fixates an object that is moved toward the nose until divergence of one eye occurs (i.e. the non-dominant eye). It is an objective test of ocular dominance.[12]
Certain stereograms [4].
The Pinhole test.[20]
The Ring test.[21]
Lens Fogging Technique. The subject fixates a distant object with both eyes open and appropriate correction in place. A +2.00 or +2.50 lens is alternately introduced in front of each eye, which blurs the distant object. The subject is then asked to state in which eye is the blur more noticeable. This is the dominant eye.

Forced choice tests of dominance, such as the Dolman method, allow only a right or left eye result.[12]"
 
Any optometrist can do the convergence near-point test. It's the only one that's objective.
 
Baxter said:
Any optometrist can do the convergence near-point test. It's the only one that's objective.
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Unless you suffer from convergence deficiency.... I have no convergence and am also 50/50 on the subjective tests...

The optometrist's first question to me was "do you keep your place with your finger when you read a book?" I was like how the crap would you know that??? "Chris, You can't cross your eyes...."

Basically I am completely dominant in either eye but with Gene's help I found out which setup gave me the overall best results... Left eye/Right handed since I have a choice seems to have me more solidly over the line.....

Chris
 
Damn! All my life, as a right handed person, thought that I have Right Eye Dominant.
I just found out that Im a Right Handed - Left Eye Dominant.
How does this affect shooting and how can you adjust/change/use this to improve your game?
 
Once you know you can tweak your aim to the Max

cuehobby said:
Damn! All my life, as a right handed person, thought that I have Right Eye Dominant.
I just found out that Im a Right Handed - Left Eye Dominant.
How does this affect shooting and how can you adjust/change/use this to improve your game?
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The problem is you can't hardly tell which eye is which without knowing. The other eye just auto focuses when it has a chance to work like the dominant and it will.

When this happens the shot will still look pretty good but it's not right. Kind of like aiming a gun under the right eye and closing the right eye and trying to shoot with the left eye still having the gun under the right eye.

On a pool shot it is not to this extreme but just a little bit is huge when your trying to aim.

I am creating almost miracles in the poolhalls I'm at everyday I'm on the road. I have logged now over 2000+ lessons in 4 years teaching Perfect Aim and I found a dominant eye with every single one of these players.

Once you understand how this works and can get everything in the right position the aiming is so much easier.

I do kind of a fun thing right now when I first go into a poolroom to do a clinic on this for the league.

I ask them if they have any ones in the league. APA has 2s and 3s.

I tell them that i will have that person firing the ball straight in after about 10 minutes.

2 nights ago i worked with a gal that was a 2 and one that was a 3.

The 2 beat her opponent that was a 7 real bad and it was her first win of the season.

The 3 beat her opponent real bad also but hers was a 5.

They both came back to the clinic table and gave me a great big hug.

This happens all the time.

You too need to call me for the free phone lesson. I have done over 900 of these in the last 3 years and they get the job done.

Just give me a call. 715-563-8712 Talk to you soon and be by a pool table. If I'm busy giving a lesson I'll just have to call you back.

Good Luck.........
 
genomachino said:
The problem is you can't hardly tell which eye is which without knowing. The other eye just auto focuses when it has a chance to work like the dominant and it will.

When this happens the shot will still look pretty good but it's not right. Kind of like aiming a gun under the right eye and closing the right eye and trying to shoot with the left eye still having the gun under the right eye.

On a pool shot it is not to this extreme but just a little bit is huge when your trying to aim.

I am creating almost miracles in the poolhalls I'm at everyday I'm on the road. I have logged now over 2000+ lessons in 4 years teaching Perfect Aim and I found a dominant eye with every single one of these players.

Once you understand how this works and can get everything in the right position the aiming is so much easier.

I do kind of a fun thing right now when I first go into a poolroom to do a clinic on this for the league.

I ask them if they have any ones in the league. APA has 2s and 3s.

I tell them that i will have that person firing the ball straight in after about 10 minutes.

2 nights ago i worked with a gal that was a 2 and one that was a 3.

The 2 beat her opponent that was a 7 real bad and it was her first win of the season.

The 3 beat her opponent real bad also but hers was a 5.

They both came back to the clinic table and gave me a great big hug.

This happens all the time.

You too need to call me for the free phone lesson. I have done over 900 of these in the last 3 years and they get the job done.

Just give me a call. 715-563-8712 Talk to you soon and be by a pool table. If I'm busy giving a lesson I'll just have to call you back.

Good Luck.........
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thanks.
that is so true about your analogy about the gun
i will definitely be bugging you in the near future.
 
I was always taught this way when I was young, and it works very easy to tell which dominant eye you are.

Point at an object on the wall about 10-15 feet away. Look down your arm at your finger. Close one eye, if your finger doesnt move thats your dominant eye. Obviously when you close your other eye you finger moves over about 2-3 inches. Really quite simple actually.


Charlie
 
Charlie Hustle said:
I was always taught this way when I was young, and it works very easy to tell which dominant eye you are.

Point at an object on the wall about 10-15 feet away. Look down your arm at your finger. Close one eye, if your finger doesnt move thats your dominant eye. Obviously when you close your other eye you finger moves over about 2-3 inches. Really quite simple actually.


Charlie
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This is a great way that I use also. But instead of pointing I use my thumb. Thanks Frank
 
It may be that you don't have a dominant eye, but some of the suggestions posted so far will soon tell you if you have.

i prefer the simple get down on a shot, close one eye, then the other and one shot will look right, the other will look alien. once you find your dominant eye you dont need to put that eye directly over the shaft, if you play chin directly over the shaft just turn your head slightly so your dominant eye is closest the cb. a change like moving your chin either side of your shaft can really throw you stroke out of the window, well thats what ive found anyway.
 
This is really simple test that I learned at the firing range.
Point your finger like a gun at an object, preferably something on a wall about 6 or so feet away with both eyes open and focus on the object. Close your left eye while focusing. If your finger DOES NOT move from either side of the object you are right eye dominant. Open both eyes again and focus your finger on the object. Close your right eye and focus. If your finger does not move from either side of the object, you are left eye dominant.

Basically, the one eye that is open and your finger does not shift from the object is your dominant eye. FYI- The majority of people that are right handed are right eye dominant.
 
Last night I tried again. Pinpoint accuracy with the cue riding the left side of my chin. I also turned my head slightly with my left eye forward and I could see the shot better. I've tried all these techniques listed except the eye doctor. I haven't changed anything else. Same stroke, thought and game.

Well I did pick up a snake skin pocket chalker, but I don't think that would have an impact.
 
Add me to the list of being confused about which one of my eyes is dominant. I have done the numerous tests mentioned and it appears that my left eye is dominant and I am right handed. There is a test that shows that my right eye is dominant.

I haven't seen this one yet, so I'm going to throw this one out. Last time I went to the eye doctor I asked him how he tells. He told me to make a small circle with my fingers, hold my hand out about a foot from my eyes, and pick a spot on his forehead to look at. He said that he was looking at my left eye so I was left eye dominant. I tend to believe him.

I just don't know how important this is to shooting pool. There are a lot of really good pool players that say they don't give this any thought. I just try and center the cue and let both of my eyes work together. The only time I find that I have a problem is cutting to my left. Usually, I will move my left eye over towards the cue a little more. Doesn't seem to be a problem when cutting to my right.

Oh well, whatever works.
 
Do the typical dominance tests while down in your shooting position. Open and close each eye and the picture that does not change is your open dominant eye.

This can a does often change at any time. I literally do this 'test' occasionally while I'm playing at be sure I'm locked in. Just becareful of who sees you winking. :)

* Oh yea.....eye dominance is massively important whether it is something you are aware of or not.
 
Here's a dumb test I made up, but I think it actually works.
Sit and look straight ahead. Now look right between your legs at your crotch. It's ok to let your chin dip a little but mostly look down with your eyes.

Do you see the side of your nose, in your peripheral vision?
If there's a double image, does one stand out more strongly than the other?

If it's the left side you're left eye dominant.
If it's the right side you're right eye dominant.

Just for fun. I think the traditional test does a better job of the same thing. But listen to what Geno has to say, I guess what's dominant in pool isn't what's dominant at other times.
 
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