You couldnt be more wrong if you tried.....maybe you are trying.....nobody could be this ignorant. They're pro's because they learn, not because they refuse to learn.
Jason
How to Use Pivot Point Knowlege To Increase Error Margins
- Thread starter Colin Colenso
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You couldnt be more wrong if you tried.....maybe you are trying.....nobody could be this ignorant. They're pro's because they learn, not because they refuse to learn.
Jason
This is not the way they learned. I'll try harder next time.
What's the drawback to gaining "unnecessary knowledge"? How can you be sure what's necessary or not?
I'll take any knowledge I can get and be better for it.
pj
chgo
How's that been working for you?
Correct. When a straight stick is pivoted, two locations on the stick will move by amounts that are in the ratio of their distances from the pivot point.
Example. When a 60" cue stick is pivoted around a point 12" from the tip, the back end of the stick will move 4 times as far as the front end, because it is 4 times as far (48") from the pivot point as the tip is (12"). So if the tip is moved 1/4", the back end will move 1". If you are gripping the butt somewhat up from the butt cap, your hand will not have to move the full 1".
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Just to see if I understand him:
- pivot point = "natural pivot point" = pivot here to correct for "pure" squirt with no swerve (same place all the time)
- effective pivot point = pivot here to correct for squirt + swerve (different place for each shot)
- squerve point = same as effective pivot point
- error reduction bridge length... I'll leave this one for Colon
) couldn't resist, Colin).pj
chgo
Let's all just make up terms and definitions. And thank you AtLarge for being the only person here that speaks English.
Like I said, I'm better for it. How has avoiding knowledge worked for you?
pj
chgo
absolutely. PJ is oozing knowledge from his every pore. Every word this world champion types for submission into the hallowed championship halls of the AZB forums is above reproach, and none shall challenge this all-knowing master of all things cue related. We're currently in the planning stages of a kickstarter to fund a monument where the words of all the great billiards champions of the AZBilliards forums will be forever immortalized into stone, and the drunk wannabes like Darren Appleton, Shane Van Boening will be able to read all of this glistening knowledge from one source, like drinking the nectar of life from mother earth's bosom.
Well he is talking out of his ass.
Usually yes, because their pivot points are usually closer to the player's bridge length (so hitting off center acts like backhand English correction for squirt).
Sorry, I don't follow this one...
pj
chgo
If you have a longer bridge, it is IMO easier to sight down the shaft (more precision aiming) like you would with a firearm which is commonly called sight radius so smaller movements are amplified. I hope this clarifies what I was referring too.
Al
Why practice when you can just come here and pretend to know more and play better than you actually do?
Well that's a first. Maybe Neil can step in, contrary to popular belief, he does know everything.
Makes perfect sense Willy and a great question, though not a perfect answer.
For me, I pivot pre-backswing, and I think this is the best way, because it has come about via thinking through the physics.
That said, quite a few pro pool and snooker players utilize this method via swiping mostly after the backswing to get to the CB offset. On other threads that I can't recall, I've shown several examples, but if interested, watch the matches and you'll see it if you want confirmation.
I'd advise the methodology suggested in my BHE video on youtube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERFTM8dbat0 as a pretty good intro, though I'd change a few statements and execute a little differently 6-7 years on, but it's a good starting point, but not gospel.
Perhaps the most offensive potter with spin in billiard sports history is Judd Trump, and I've recorded several examples of him using post backswing BHE (swipe across) successfully. I doubt he's fully aware of it, but he has found a way to use it to his advantage.
Colin
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