How to win in 10-ball?

Double-Dave

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Just follow 3 simple rules::
a) always hit the ball with the lowest number first
b) always drop an object ball in a pocket
c) if the ball of (b) is the 10--you call the intended pocket

When the 10-ball goes in you win.

Can you show me where in the WPA rules it says that you win by making the 10;)?
 

Double-Dave

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Not accurate. Under WPA rules, the ten only counts when it is the last ball on the table. The rule is generally referred to as "10ball last."

Same question for you Stu, can you point me to the WPA rule that states making the 10 is a win?
 

maha

from way back when
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for cheaper money you played 3 games of 6 ball in the bars. and caught a couple balls with your hand so you got all 3 games. rotation with whatever numbers were left.

and for 20 to 50 a game range, you didnt care about the quarter to get balls back.

for the real bigger money all the games were 8 ball. try to hit your ball. if you didnt obviously try you got to do it all over again unless he wanted the shot.
a couple times and you might get hit with a stick or just quit on.

people are stupid just try, and win anyway as they all played worse than you.
 
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sjm

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Same question for you Stu, can you point me to the WPA rule that states making the 10 is a win?
That's more Bob Jewett's area, but I've watched the World 10-ball. To qualify for WPA sanctioning, a world championship must be played under current WPA rules, and they always play "ten ball last" at the World 10-ball. I'd guess the rule has only been in use for about six years now.

Here's a critical rack from the 2019 World 10-ball final between Josh Filler and Ko Ping Chung where the rule figured prominently. Start watching at 1:23:50. In this rack, which occurred with the match tied 6-6, Josh must play a 9-10 combo and Jeremy Jones, at 1:24:50, reminds the viewer that he will need to play shape onto the nine as he shoots the combo.

 
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Texas Carom Club

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for cheaper money you played 3 games of 6 ball in the bars. and caught a couple balls with your hand so you got all 3 games. rotation with whatever numbers were left.

and for 20 to 50 a game range, you didnt care about the quarter to get balls back.

for the real bigger money all the games were 8 ball. try to hit your ball. if you didnt obviously try you got to do it all over again unless he wanted the shot.
a couple times and you might get hit with a stick or just quit on.

people are stupid just try, and win anyway as they all played worse than you.

your turning into the next bavafagoul and shooting arts with responses like these
cocobolo cowboy like almost
 

garczar

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Same question for you Stu, can you point me to the WPA rule that states making the 10 is a win?
That's been the WPA rule for yrs. Their new website blows but that's the WPA way, 10b last(rule 9.8). Just another reason for me to dislike these tools.
 

garczar

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10-Ball is turning into the new 8-ball with so many variations on rules.
There's really only three main variations: WPA(10b last), modified WPA where 10b can be made early and good 'ol DerbyCity Bigfoot which is basically texas-express 9ball rules. There is one i left out, the horrible 10ball last-call shot/call safe version. In this turd of a game there are no two-way shots, if you miss and hook the guy he can make you shoot again. Luckily no tournament/tour of any size uses it. The NYC Predator 10b Tour used to use it and its horrible. Almost as boring as Heyball and that's saying something.
 
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ShootingArts

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Yes, but the importance of six ball was that in the bars, if you put in your coins and played a game of nine ball, you usually had six balls left over when the game was over, so playing six ball next allowed you to get two games in for your money.

Two games, but the bet was the same for the six ball game as the nine ball game. I didn't want to break and run or lose the money I had just won.

I didn't like playing nine and then six. I liked six and then nine much better as already mentioned. I knew it was a mental thing, I still just never liked six ball. It is a lower percentage game for the breaker than nine ball. I would rather shoot fifteen balls in rotation than six. I never see less balls as the better game. If somebody is in a rush, up the bet.

Hu
 

garczar

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Two games, but the bet was the same for the six ball game as the nine ball game. I didn't want to break and run or lose the money I had just won.

I didn't like playing nine and then six. I liked six and then nine much better as already mentioned. I knew it was a mental thing, I still just never liked six ball. It is a lower percentage game for the breaker than nine ball. I would rather shoot fifteen balls in rotation than six. I never see less balls as the better game. If somebody is in a rush, up the bet.

Hu
Used to play a lil local 3ball bar tourn. yrs back. On the other table we played 9/6, $5on the 9b and $3 on the 6b and whoever won the 9b game kept the table. Fun game and no one got hurt too bad $$-wise. Couple times i roasted them pretty good but they kept coming back every friday. Good times in ol Broken Arrow,Ok.
 

ShootingArts

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Used to play a lil local 3ball bar tourn. yrs back. On the other table we played 9/6, $5on the 9b and $3 on the 6b and whoever won the 9b game kept the table. Fun game and no one got hurt too bad $$-wise. Couple times i roasted them pretty good but they kept coming back every friday. Good times in ol Broken Arrow,Ok.


The different sized bet and the nine ball winner keeping the table would be much more pleasing to me.

When nothing was going on in the local bar with a few tables the gamblers often dinked around playing each other three or five a game. This was in the seventies and eighties. I don't understand why inflation has never touched bar pool and they are still playing three and five dollars a game.

Hu
 

garczar

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The different sized bet and the nine ball winner keeping the table would be much more pleasing to me.

When nothing was going on in the local bar with a few tables the gamblers often dinked around playing each other three or five a game. This was in the seventies and eighties. I don't understand why inflation has never touched bar pool and they are still playing three and five dollars a game.

Hu
Bar pool for $ has all but died here in Tulsa area. Once a hotbed for pool its just league players and they won't bet the sky is blue in most cases. Used to be able to get a $5/10 game as soon as you walked in and often that ended up being $20/40+ per game. Good action back then. No more. They all sit around staring at their fkng fones. Sad.
 

couldnthinkof01

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The different sized bet and the nine ball winner keeping the table would be much more pleasing to me.

When nothing was going on in the local bar with a few tables the gamblers often dinked around playing each other three or five a game. This was in the seventies and eighties. I don't understand why inflation has never touched bar pool and they are still playing three and five dollars a game.

Hu
Because inflation hit our grocery bill too hard
 

Double-Dave

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Yes, it is spotted immediately after the shot.

Hi Bob,

Since Stu also referred to you in this regard, I am having trouble finding out how to win a game of 10-ball in accordance with the WPA rules.

Can you help? Where in the rules is described how to win a game of 10-ball?
 

ShootingArts

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Bar pool for $ has all but died here in Tulsa area. Once a hotbed for pool its just league players and they won't bet the sky is blue in most cases. Used to be able to get a $5/10 game as soon as you walked in and often that ended up being $20/40+ per game. Good action back then. No more. They all sit around staring at their fkng fones. Sad.

I used to enjoy a healthy challenge table that kept a handful of challenges on it all the time. The bets were small, three or five bucks plus the table. I went away twenty years or so and came back. With inflation and increased wages I expected ten dollar action everywhere and better to be worked into. Not only was the starting bet still three or five dollars, people were locked into that wager hard!


Because inflation hit our grocery bill too hard

You are probably right but it is still a bitter pill to swallow!

Hu
 

garczar

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Hi Bob,

Since Stu also referred to you in this regard, I am having trouble finding out how to win a game of 10-ball in accordance with the WPA rules.

Can you help? Where in the rules is described how to win a game of 10-ball?
Make the ten ball LAST on a legal called shot. If 10ball is made(legally) earlier it spots as shown in that video of Filler. If its pocketed illegally it spots and incoming player can make you shoot again. No offense but what is puzzling you?
 

skogstokig

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Used to play a lil local 3ball bar tourn. yrs back. On the other table we played 9/6, $5on the 9b and $3 on the 6b and whoever won the 9b game kept the table. Fun game and no one got hurt too bad $$-wise. Couple times i roasted them pretty good but they kept coming back every friday. Good times in ol Broken Arrow,Ok.

3 ball, meaning three money balls? or just three balls on the table?

in sweden, a popular money tournament variation of 9-ball is "5-9", in which the 5-ball is worth 1 point and the 9-ball is worth 2 points. early 5/9's spots back up, winner breaks.
 

garczar

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3 ball, meaning three money balls? or just three balls on the table?

in sweden, a popular money tournament variation of 9-ball is "5-9", in which the 5-ball is worth 1 point and the 9-ball is worth 2 points. early 5/9's spots back up, winner breaks.
Just American 3ball. Different variations, common bar table game. Take too long to explain in text. Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-ball We usually lined them up, makes it harder to make an 'ace'. some of the 'ace' pots i've seen have been over 5-6grand.
 
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