How would you handle this?

[fastone371]

She didn't foul but what if she did? Is this a serious question? I never beat Mosconi's 526 but what if I did? A pig can't fly but what if it could?

What happened there my man was you sharked you opponent. Drink less beer next time so you can count to 2.

I dont think the OPs topic was about an opponent committing a foul, rather it was about what would you do if you told your opponent they were on 2 fouls and they disagreed. The shooter was sure he was right, when you are attempting to 3 foul someone thats usually not something you lose track of. So yeah, I would say the OP was serious.

 

[GideonF]

She didn't foul but what if she did? Is this a serious question? I never beat Mosconi's 526 but what if I did? A pig can't fly but what if it could?

What happened there my man was you sharked you opponent. Drink less beer next time so you can count to 2.

I think the OP meant that the shooter didn't foul after the dispute - i.e, there was no "third" foul so it would not have ended the game anyway. At the time he asked the question, he is saying he thought she was on two and she didn't.

 

[justaplayer]

You just execute a good safety and say to your opponent "You're on two". He says "no I'm not". You explain his last foul and how he gave you ball in hand. He then tells you you're wrong, he made a good shot between fouls. Neither of you are lying. You both believe you are right. This happened to me in league play the other day. It turned out to be moot as she didn't foul but what if she did?

If you played the prior safety from ball in hand then he's gotta be on 2. If he agrees to that then it's over.

It's getting to the point that I tell people they are on 1 after I play 2nd safety...guys get forgetful and I don't need the BS.

 

[Atlatlien]

I don't think I have ever shown up to a league match intent on three fouling someone.

...So?

 

[ronscuba]

Trying to 3 foul a woman during a league match is bad karma, it's one of those rules that are general common sense...similar to never hitting a woman.

Never hitting a woman, yeah.

But in my league we have women at A, B and open. If the opportunity is there, I am going for the 3 foul.

 

[FranCrimi]

When there is no referee present and there is a dispute, the shooter gets the benefit of the doubt.

 

[alstl]

I think the OP meant that the shooter didn't foul after the dispute - i.e, there was no "third" foul so it would not have ended the game anyway. At the time he asked the question, he is saying he thought she was on two and she didn't.

He clearly said the opponent made a good shot in between the fouls and yet he somehow lost track and told her she was on 2. Some players would consider that being sharked.

To me, speaking only for myself, before you say something you should be watching closely enough to know whether or not the person in on 2 fouls. If you aren't serious enough or too drunk to watch the match then you shouldn't say anything.

 

[GideonF]

He clearly said the opponent made a good shot in between the fouls and yet he somehow lost track and told her she was on 2. Some players would consider that being sharked.



To me, speaking only for myself, before you say something you should be watching closely enough to know whether or not the person in on 2 fouls. If you aren't serious enough or too drunk to watch the match then you shouldn't say anything.

No, he clearly said his opponent CLAIMED to have made a good shot in between the fouls. I thought it was clear from his post that he did not agree and believed she had not done so - but thought neither of them were lying, one was wrong. If the facts are as you think, then his post makes no sense.

I agree with your general premise that you need to pay attention and be sure, but it doesn't help if your opponent is confused.

 

[Celophanewrap]

Trying to 3 foul a woman during a league match is bad karma, it's one of those rules that are general common sense...similar to never hitting a woman.

I would kinda like Fran's thoughts regarding this post.

I've never had a problem playing a safe or a series of safes against anyone, I know there are other players that have had a problem with someone playing safe against them labeling it something like "Ni**er Pool" or something equally as offensive, but I've never thought it to be poor etiquette to play defense against a female or a lower rated player

 

[hang-the-9]

Not understanding why the rules are 3 foul is childish. I don't care what level. What's next? No safeties allowed.

Typical scenario is breaker scratches and leaves clusters that are unmanageable or very low percentage. Solution take ball in hand and execute a lock up safety. Now he had a decision try and make the tough hit or make the next hook tough.

No different than tieing up a ball with a push shot.

Smart play should never be frowned upon unless your a clown.


Regards

Nick B

3 fouls end up giving an advantage to the better player by far, not only do they know the rule and are aware of when to play it, they can also execute it better and kick much better. Who wants to 3 foul some D or C player that can barely play shape with ball in hand?

One of the local tournaments I play in got rid of 3 foul rules, after too many people were confused about it, and did not know what a "foul" was (one guy thought that if you hit the ball but then scratch into a pocket it's not a "foul"), and explaining the rule to new players that don't play 9 ball gets old. Bad enough explaining what a push out is, or that you need to hit a rail for a good hit and such LOL

 

[hang-the-9]

Trying to 3 foul a woman during a league match is bad karma, it's one of those rules that are general common sense...similar to never hitting a woman.

What does someone being a woman matter to how you play against them? I've played a few women that played better than me. Automatically giving a woman an advantage based on the fact that they are a woman is silly. Which is why I laugh at tournaments that automatically give women a lower entry fee or games on the wire. Sure, go give Karen Corr or Jazmin 2 games to 7 in your event, see how the other players like it.