Simple shot and it's gonna get most people on 3rd foul. Keep 1 ball away from the rail and near 3 and it gets even more difficult to hit.
How Would You Play This? Safety Time
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Simple shot and it's gonna get most people on 3rd foul. Keep 1 ball away from the rail and near 3 and it gets even more difficult to hit.
Can't thus be hit with 2 rail kick out of the corner by the 4?
You want distance and obstructing balls to make the hit much tougher. Shot I described above you are shooting down table, over balls and trying to hit 1 that's under the 3 ball. Would be very unlikely hit.
In a match I would play the one off the six (break the out) and run out.
If I was playing safe, I think the best safety is to shoot the one directly into the six and freezing the cue ball on the eight. This takes away everything except a VERY difficult three rail kick that would have to be perfect to not hit the nine or other blocking balls.
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This is easy?
Oops, wrong layout. Use this one.
This is a fairly easy hit by going off the bottom rail using low right english isn't it?
Ok, I didn't notice the part about playing a C +… this is a jam up lock safe against a C +….
what about the 2 rail kick from by the 4 ball, isn't that still a possible hit?
see post #'s 25 & 27. :wink:
If you can generate the necessary speed and spin to go 2 rails while keeping the cue-ball on the table, mazel tov. As well, it's probably 3 rails, assuming you get the 1-ball off the rail and hidden behind the 8.
No one else like my shot? If you can control the 6 and 9 after that shot you would be in a good position to run out.
If I were the shooter and my opponent was on one foul, I'd consider the run-out. I'm not fond of caroming off balls but with BIH and a straight shot at the carom, it's worthy of consideration. You're right; after the carom, the table is wide open. With my opponent on two fouls and a couple of very solid safeties available, if it's strictly about the W, I'm safing.
Shoot 1 ball two-three rails behind(ish) 5,7. Stick cueball between 5,7. Buy popcorn.
Shooting it this way eliminates the 1 rail, makes the 2 rail near impossible and only leaves the 3,4 rail shots.
OR (Much harder)
Thin the 1 into the 8 and go 1 rail to get under the 9,6. This makes for an extremely difficult kick and if the cueball is frozen may require and an act of god to make a legal hit. 4 ball restricts kicking and the 8 ball adds extra difficulty because its right next to the 1.
OR (Efren speed)
Option # 1 variation. Stun follow the cueball into the 5,7 and play 1 ball into the back of 5,7. Probably the hardest possible situation to get out of with this layout.
Shooting it this way eliminates the 1 rail, makes the 2 rail near impossible and only leaves the 3,4 rail shots.
OR (Much harder)
Thin the 1 into the 8 and go 1 rail to get under the 9,6. This makes for an extremely difficult kick and if the cueball is frozen may require and an act of god to make a legal hit. 4 ball restricts kicking and the 8 ball adds extra difficulty because its right next to the 1.
OR (Efren speed)
Option # 1 variation. Stun follow the cueball into the 5,7 and play 1 ball into the back of 5,7. Probably the hardest possible situation to get out of with this layout.
Another option, but admittedly one that might be difficult for a C+ player to execute, is to hit the one into the 9 and leave the cb behind the 8. The goal here is not to make the 1 off the 9, but to just separate the 9 from the 6. So, you want to hit the pocket side of the 9 and leave the 9 blocking any two rail hit on the 1. That way, the table is more open for the runnout if they get ball in hand somehow and don't get the third foul for the win.
Roll the 1 into the rail right next to the 9/6.hide the cue ball against the 8. It serves two purposes. They can jump and the kick is tough, especially if you get to the right of the 8...they would have to go 3 or 4 cushions to escape. The main purpose though is to get the 1 close to the cluster so that even if they make the kick they break your cluster out and create an open table.
Depending on the opponents skill level, and shooters for that matter a simple distance safety banking the 1 up table and using the 5/7 as blockers might be enough to get the third foul. If I'm playing a weak opponent I would just try leave distance and a kick or jump. If they're slightly better then I take away the jump and get close to the 5/7 with the cue ball.
I do enjoy threads like these.you learn so many outside the box ways.
Depending on the opponents skill level, and shooters for that matter a simple distance safety banking the 1 up table and using the 5/7 as blockers might be enough to get the third foul. If I'm playing a weak opponent I would just try leave distance and a kick or jump. If they're slightly better then I take away the jump and get close to the 5/7 with the cue ball.
I do enjoy threads like these.you learn so many outside the box ways.
You shouldnt care about the 6 ball if your opponent is on two fouls. Rolling up on the 5-7 is the right shot
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Both of those are fine, but if you played them on me, I'll give odds on myself getting a hit.
I would thin the one ball (behind the 8) and play an angle to end up barely behind the nine with the cue ball. You would leave a tough kick since the four ball and eight ball would be in the way kicking at the one ball.
I usually start posting on these types of threads with enthusiasm....
....but what held me back is Jude informing us that the shooter is a C+ player.
....and the ability of the opponent is also a factor in your choices.
Sooo....in terms of what a good player should do, I agree with Hawiian Eye...one-ball
off the 9-ball and run out...remember, if you run into problems because of the 9-ball
rearranging the furniture, you STILL have the three foul option.
I don't have much experience coaching at a league level....but I have seen C players
not even get a rail with Jude's option...even though it's a hanger for a 'player'...
So, as a coach, I'm going with Dave K's option...'cause the C player can be a foot short,
weight-wise, and still have the snooker.....if the opponent kicks like Efren, she's not going
to win anyway...no way, no how.