How Would You Play This? Tough Leave on the 9

Depends on the stakes.
I might try to (using extreme rt english) come off the rail behind the 9 playing it in the corner.
Missing the safety will leave some impossible bank that I would bet could be made somewhere. Dont forget there is close to 30" inches of hole on the table. It can go somewhere.
 
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sjm said:
Yes, that is, in rough terms, what it means. In more general terms, any shot in which more than one foreseeable outcome may be favorable would qualify. For example, I might try to carom in the nine as I pocket the three ball, and that could qualify as a two way shot.

Hey, thanks for paying us a visit here in NYC. Hope you had fun. Come back soon.
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I had a great time! I will definitely be back soon:D
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Wow, that didn't take long. This answer is absolutely correct. Excellent shot, sir.
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Thank you.

I did, however, have to learn this shot the hard way (by getting beat with it first) before I started to see it everytime.
 
cuetable said:
Hi Jude:

I saw it and didn't have a chance to ask what you or Ginky thought of this...

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What's her name again? looks like you have a good student!
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This shot looks to have a much better chance of scratching on and you can also sell out the shot by under of over hitting it much easier than the thin cut.
 
I would probably have loaded up on inside (right in this case) english, hit the 9 ball to hit the other side rail, catch the spin from the cue ball and go in the same side as it is sitting near. Of course, I lose alot:)
 
The safety shot proposed by cuetable and A Manning is the correct shot, or at least the correct safety.

It's actually extremely difficult to scratch on it. You just need to make sure you open the angle on the CB, this also ensures that you don't leave 9B next to the hole.

With a little practice, you should have both 9b and CB on - or very close to - the short rail center diamonds.

There is a one rail bank cross side, and a one rail bank in the corner. So if I was playing an excellent player, I would go for the win. But against anybody except a A player, I do the 2-rail safety and force them to come up with a big shot.
 
RRfireblade said:
Hard tell from the drawing then.
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No it's not... It looks like you could bank this 3 rails (top bottom top) into that bottom side though if you're feeling like a trick shot or something.
 
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another option..........extreme inside english with a very slight inside cut (almost full) and draw. bank the nine two rails to the same side pocket. did it my first try. you can also go three rails to the opposite side as well which might work better for some


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OK - hard to tell in these layouts, but apparently the cross-side in NOT an option? So remove that...

RE: the safety shot 1-rail vs 2, a lot of this has to do with your own knowledge and speed control. When I agreed that the 2-rail safety is the best play, I was NOT thinking of it as a 2-way shot. It requires a firm commitment to play safe, not throw it towards the hole and hope to land safe if you miss!

-von
 
VonRhett said:
OK - hard to tell in these layouts, but apparently the cross-side in NOT an option? So remove that...

-von
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my two or three rail shots are.......at least for me.
 
Takumi4G63 said:
No it's not... It looks like you could bank this 3 rails (top bottom top) into that bottom side though if you're feeling like a trick shot or something.
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Yeah , not really that much of a trick shot either. I still think I could straight bank it tho. :D
 
Frankncali
Can someone post a JPEG of Judes layout?

Since changing computers I have not been able to view Cuetable.
Strange.... i have tried almost everything.

Make sure you are logged in as the administrator or as a user that has administrative rights to your machine. When you get to a post that has a pool table diagram like Jude's, it will prompt you to install "activeX". You will see something right under the search bar that says "click here to install active " (or something close to that) this will enable you to see the table diagrams. The key is having administative rights to your computer, otherwise the prompts dont show.

Jude, i would have banked it 5 rails for a shot in the side with a little masse, but thats just me. :)

KW
 
I guess I'm a little surprised that no one else offered up this alternative. Not very good at the Cue Table layout. I want to end up the way I've shown the 8 ball and the cue ball.

Now, I'm about 13 levels below Jude, but on occasion I manage to play someone who is only 1 or 2 levels below Jude and my way is a tough shot (sometimes) for a better player.

The reason I choose my way is I can control my speed and angle much better my way.

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im sorry for interjecting in such a rude way...but a world class player
(ginky)showed the shot to jude..with the answer ,then i see some of these rediculous answers,not that lack of knowledge is rediculous but if you guys EVER want to improve you need to listen to the ones who are knowledgable and have proven it...anyone want to play endgame with ginky a few years ago?
all answers are fine just understand where most of you are on the food chain...the right shot gets the money alot more often then the almost right shot or the "if i just" shot take the instruction,practice it,perfect then try to compare it to your shot only then will you understand how valuble this little tidbits are when strung together properly
 
scttybee said:
im sorry for interjecting in such a rude way...but a world class player
(ginky)showed the shot to jude..with the answer ,then i see some of these rediculous answers,not that lack of knowledge is rediculous but if you guys EVER want to improve you need to listen to the ones who are knowledgable and have proven it...anyone want to play endgame with ginky a few years ago?
all answers are fine just understand where most of you are on the food chain...the right shot gets the money alot more often then the almost right shot or the "if i just" shot take the instruction,practice it,perfect then try to compare it to your shot only then will you understand how valuble this little tidbits are when strung together properly
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I have listened to a world class player and he said he's banking it in the lower corner everytime. I guess the "answer" is different depending on which pro you ask.

BTW, Jude might correct you if you spell ridiculous wrong. Right Jude?
 
cuetable said:
Hi Jude:

I saw it and didn't have a chance to ask what you or Ginky thought of this...

What's her name again? looks like you have a good student!
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That's what I'd try, too. You could try to bank it in the corner, but a miss would equal a sell out since whitey would wind up down table with the nine.
 
I thought the thin cut (Ginkys shot) was the shot, but after shooting it some on my home table, the results for me were that using the thicker hit three rail (two rails if the 9 is froze) shot gave me much better results. The main problem I had with the thin cut was that it was difficult to consistently get the nineball and the cueball near the end rails. I would get the nine where I wanted but the cueball would end up a diamond or more off of the rail. With the thicker hit, it was definitely easier to get both balls very close to the rails .
 
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