How would you play this?

[Ak147]

Solid's turn in a hill-hill 8 ball game for $100. You are playing against A player.

PS: No pocket is available for 5.

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[Neil]

Can't see it.

 

[Ak147]

Ah, i see. Thought it was browser issue on my side but others might be able to see it. I will try to repost tomorrow. Does the link at the bottom works by anychance?

 

[-Dinos-]

Yep, the link is working.
As far as the layout is concerned, a hook on 8 ball would be my choice. Soft stroke, thin hit on the left of 7 just to move it in position where a medium follow will pocket the 7 and break the cluster, provided you get ball in hand.

 

[Neil]

Ah, i see. Thought it was browser issue on my side but others might be able to see it. I will try to repost tomorrow. Does the link at the bottom works by anychance?

link says "plugin not supported".

 

[TATE]

Here it is:

 

[Tramp Steamer]

Yep, the link is working.
As far as the layout is concerned, a hook on 8 ball would be my choice. Soft stroke, thin hit on the left of 7 just to move it in position where a medium follow will pocket the 7 and break the cluster, provided you get ball in hand.

-Dinos-, it's customary, when making your first post on AZ, to say hello to all the folks here and tell them a little about yourself. Then we respond by saying: "Hi, how are you?"; "Welcome aboard."; "Glad you're here." Stuff like that.

 

[Icon of Sin]

-Dinos-, it's customary, when making your first post on AZ, to say hello to all the folks here and tell them a little about yourself. Then we respond by saying: "Hi, how are you?"; "Welcome aboard."; "Glad you're here." Stuff like that.

While it is customary, it is not a requirement and a lot of people could really care less.

I think your first post, joining a thread and offering your opinion on the topic, was just fine.

As for the topic. I like thinning the 5 ball. This will move the 13 out a bit and and the 5 will end up blocking it. Even if the 5 doesnt block it because it was struck a bit harder, the 13 will go up table off the short rail and the pocket wont be available anymore for the next shot. Might end up breaking the cluster enough to where you could run out.

The hook behind the 8 isnt bad and more then likely gets you back to the table provide the jump isnt an option, but it doesnt solve your 5 ball problem. Even if you did get ball in hand, breaking the 5 out from the 7ball pushes the 5 away from the pocket and pushes the 13 in the way still. Id be worried the breakout off the 7 is only going to help the opponent.

 

[Neil]

I agree with the safe off the 7 and freezing the cb to the 8. But, if you want to make him crap his pants while you are at it, then just thin the 5 on the right side, go 4 rails with the cb to make the 7, then just shoot in the 5 and then the 8. :wink:

Thanks for the pic, Tate.

 

[cubswin]

-Dinos-, it's customary, when making your first post on AZ, to say hello to all the folks here and tell them a little about yourself. Then we respond by saying: "Hi, how are you?"; "Welcome aboard."; "Glad you're here." Stuff like that.

Who decided that was the custom?

As for the table I'd probably make a bad choice and play the cue ball to the other end of the table by playing the cueball off the seven with a bit of side spin. More than likely the 7 then rolls into the 8, 8 hits the 13 over to the side of the pocket, and opponent gets out.

 

[Tramp Steamer]

While it is customary, it is not a requirement and a lot of people could really care less.
I think your first post, joining a thread and offering your opinion on the topic, was just fine.

Manners is manners, Icon. :smile:

 

[-Dinos-]

Tramp is right. It was an unorthodox start

 

[Icon of Sin]

Tramp is right. It was an unorthodox start

OMG!!!! 2 posts and no introduction yet!!!! OUTRAGE... I NEED to know more about you before I keep reading what you post!!!!1111one

 

[GeoEnvi]

Good luck freezing to the 8, and I'm sure the "A" player has a jump cue.... so....

I'm liking an option where you thin the 7 with right english and aim to leave the CB somewhere between the head spot and lower right corner pocket.

That way, the opponent could try to kick and the 13 off top long rail - perhaps the side gets in the way, perhaps he comes up short and hits the 5.

... or the bottom long rail and bumps the 13 toward the middle of the end rail.

... or a thin slice at the left side of 13.

Regardless, some luck is involved on where the 7 lands. Maybe it blocks the 8. Maybe it give you a great way to start the pattern after the opponent bumps the 13 away and opens the 5.

 

[mattkenefick]

I would try to maybe thin the 7 enough block the pocket and leave him with a hittable ball on the 13. Then he'll hit that which will pop out the 5 for sure and either give you a shot on the newly relocated 7 ball OR ideally the 5. Also, if you needed to.. you could at this point do a one rail combo into the 7 with a decent idea of positioning for the 5 (if he gets stubborn about safing the 13)

I'd prefer he have a definite hit on the 13 that can't really be sunk than for him to just give it back in hand. Otherwise we'd be talking about this same question but it'd be "What do I do w ball in hand here?"

 

[Icon of Sin]

I would try to maybe thin the 7 enough block the pocket and leave him with a hittable ball on the 13. Then he'll hit that which will pop out the 5 for sure and either give you a shot on the newly relocated 7 ball OR ideally the 5. Also, if you needed to.. you could at this point do a one rail combo into the 7 with a decent idea of positioning for the 5 (if he gets stubborn about safing the 13)

I'd prefer he have a definite hit on the 13 that can't really be sunk than for him to just give it back in hand. Otherwise we'd be talking about this same question but it'd be "What do I do w ball in hand here?"

I like this shot. Keep the 7 in front of the pocket and you own that pocket now and the 8 must go elsewhere. Drags the game out a few more innings but really puts you in a good spot.

 

[Icon of Sin]

Solid's turn in a hill-hill 8 ball game for $100. You are playing against A player.

PS: No pocket is available for 5.

Was this a real world scenario? if so, what happened?

 

[erhino41]

I would try to maybe thin the 7 enough block the pocket and leave him with a hittable ball on the 13. Then he'll hit that which will pop out the 5 for sure and either give you a shot on the newly relocated 7 ball OR ideally the 5. Also, if you needed to.. you could at this point do a one rail combo into the 7 with a decent idea of positioning for the 5 (if he gets stubborn about safing the 13)

I'd prefer he have a definite hit on the 13 that can't really be sunk than for him to just give it back in hand. Otherwise we'd be talking about this same question but it'd be "What do I do w ball in hand here?"

That was my thought. I would prefer that the break the cluster for me. Although even where it lies it looks like the seven could be thinned in and alot of left could break out that five,I don't like the percentages on that one. I also don't like the prospect of a slight error leaving him the easiest of runs, which could happen very easily on the eight ball safe. There are two ways to look at this possibility though. You could hit the seven soft enough to stay in front of the pocket of you could two rail out to around the spot.i like the two rail option because the eight could serve as a potential blocker for him ok his return safety. A whisper of a hit on his ball just enough to hit the rail with cue ball after, probably won't leave you an open shot on the five. You might get lucky and Greek leave it straight for the side or the top corner, but probably not, maybe an offer at a cross side bank. I would prefer the cue ball be further up table. It is m much harder to soft hit that stripe from nine feet away. He'll probably sell out with a hit and you will have two balls in the open to choose from.

 

[GeoEnvi]

I would prefer the cue ball be further up table. It is m much harder to soft hit that stripe from nine feet away. He'll probably sell out with a hit and you will have two balls in the open to choose from.

MY thoughts exactly.

 

[erhino41]

I changed my mind. I'm cutting that seven in all day. If I need to I can play safe on that five. I like to just nut up and play if I have control of the table and a makeable shot. One diamond apart and that seven is off of the rail, I'm spinning that five right out of there.



I'm gonna set this one up tonight. I'll let you know tomorrow what I would have done