How would you rate my speed based on this video?

nineballsafety8

nineballsafety8

6ft 5" 285, hits 'em hard
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Just curious what most of you would rate my skill level based on this short practice session?

Wasn't being serious or anything, just wanted to watch myself under normal practice conditions and look for major flaws.

https://youtu.be/JyulOjm6gew
 
nineballsafety8 said:
Just curious what most of you would rate my skill level based on this short practice session?

Wasn't being serious or anything, just wanted to watch myself under normal practice conditions and look for major flaws.

https://youtu.be/JyulOjm6gew
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I'm not going to rate your game but I will tell you some things you need to work on.....
Your not playing 3 balls ahead and it's causing you to use spin instead of the correct angle.
Take a minute and look at where everything is laying
It will make a huge difference
 
Could you tell us what size table and pockets you have before we comment, TY, Johnnyt
 
Never did much with rating systems, but you do alot of good things. Good shot-making, decent position play. You have good feel. You probably give alot of guys trouble.

As far as things to work on, and your "wasn't being serious" comment might make some of the things I say a bit inaccurate:

1. Your break - breaking harder and stopping the cueball. (but you might have been going easy on purpose). But definitely getting the cueball parked in the middle.

2. Your pattern play and cueball could use some work but is still generally decent - You get into trouble on some balls that you shouldn't have. With a few better line choices, you'd get out more. But you might just be rushing too, so it's hard to tell. Looks like you settle for ok position on the next ball, without giving enough thought to the ball after that....if that makes any sense.

But you definitely have all the tools to get to the next level. You can definitely run out. The way I see it, the next level for you is running out easier....and maybe 1 or 2 more out of every 10. If you refine your patterns, you got it though. Lots of good in what you showed.
 
Very fast shooting and relying on quite a bit of luck for the next shot in that video. Does not seem like there are lots of plans for shape, just sending the cueball in the general location of the next ball.

In the third rack you had that cluster, took ball in hand, and then shot quickly without planning where the cueball or next ball were heading and ended up hooked. You could have shot the 1, then the 2 and used that to break up the cluser or made sure you hit the 2 on the right side and speed where both the 2 and the cueball went to a clear area.

Also quite a few mistakes in spin and speed. Like here https://youtu.be/JyulOjm6gew?t=9m36s there is no way you should end up going bellow the 6, center ball with a tiny bit of left or 1/2 tip draw will send you to the rail and back out for the 6 in the corner. Running into balls quite a bit. It's OK to do that at times when you don't have a choice, but it seems like you were doing it because you could not control the cueball to avoid them.

This rack is almost all luck https://youtu.be/JyulOjm6gew?t=10m57s it looks like, you almost got hooked (I could see the table roll save you from being behind a ball), ended up on the rail a few times, then got lucky and hit the 6 for position on the 7 then had almost ball in hand shape to get to the 9 but looks like you used reverse and killed the cueball, unless that rail is dead.

I'd give you a C+.

I don't mean to be harsh, but you really need to work on planning for position and execution of the position better, you play like someone that learned to pocket balls from just playing a lot, not from studying and playing good position.

I'm sure you can beat a lot of bar players, but a B player would probably beat you 75% of the time in any race over 2 or 3 without you planning out position better.
 
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Johnnyt said:
Could you tell us what size table and pockets you have before we comment, TY, Johnnyt
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Let me take a guess, Johnny ... looks like an 8 footer with 4 3/4" to 5" pockets.

Sure is a pretty table.

Can't wait to see how I did on my eye exam .. :-)
 
C+

Good shooting man, I say this as someone around the same skill level as you.

Pros:
Good shoemaker, didn't see you really dog a shot as far as pocketing a ball. Made a few combos, and kicked well.

Need to work on:
Break- yes you pocketed the 9 twice on the snap, but with all of the follow you typically put on the ball, that will get you in trouble as the one ball heads up table and you will get stuck on the other end behind balls. Try less power, more control. That cloth looked relatively new and it doesn't take much to break a 9 ball rack and keep the cue ball in the center of the table.

Cue ball control- again great shot maker, but unless it was a simple stun, follow or slight draw, you messed up position a ton. Try using the rails and coming into the line of the next shot to increase your margin of error. Don't think I recall more than maybe one shot where you used the rail to get position properly.
Keep up the good shooting, again I'm in your same boat and now talking down. Good luck!
 
I agree with almost all of the advice given so far. If I were you, consider posting another video where you're generally playing slower and giving more thought to each shot (and the following few shots). Do a little more analysis during your outs. I'd be very interested to see if your speed increases almost immediately, or whether it gets you off your game. Either way, it's still the right thing to do (more analysis).
 
8 footer on bare feet at home is impossible to rate speed. You shoot fast, and I doubt under money or tournamen conditionst you'd shoot as fast. Which will change your game. So I think speed rating based on practice wouldn't be accurate.
 
Fast and Loose

Simple advice. My game used to be allot like yours, fast and loose. I over heard one of our short stops explaining my game to somebody by just saying "Makes allot of shots but just shoots too fast" I took the "makes shots" part to heart and it made me think, if I try a little harder to get position, I might just get out. It is amazing what taking just a fraction more time to make sure you are on the correct side of certain leaves does to how often you get out.
 
In my estimation, you would be about a C+ player.

You shoot much too quickly for your skill level. If you slow down, and make your decisions before you get down on the shot, you'll see dramatic improvements. You may also want to develop a pre-shot routine. Maybe even count the number of practice strokes, and be consistent every time.

Also, you don't take any time racking, nor do you study the rack. This shows me that you must not understand the importance of gaps in a 9 ball rack. I strongly recommend you purchase Joe Tucker's 'Racking Secrets' and 'Breaking Secrets' DVDs. This will also demonstrate the importance of controlling your break.

Good luck.
 
I love the fact that you posted this. Hopefully you can get some good advice. I plan on doing the same.

I would agree with the other poster at c+

You have a good stroke and can get a lot of juice on the cue ball but a couple things to look at would be slowing down considerably and trying to work on the break. By that I mean cue ball control and find a spot to break from unless that isn't working on a specific table. When you find a good spot to break from you can consistently make the same ball (I make the 1 in the side about 70 percent of the time and always break from the same spot on my table).
 
Not a B.

0:32 Not ideal ball-in-hand position. You got lucky.
2:42 Break the cluster on the 2 ball, not the 1 ball. But you got lucky.
3:49 High left on the 1 ball. Cue ball should go inbetween the 6 and 8.
5:00 Spot it man. You didn't actually plan to do that.
5:48 The 1 ball should go to the top left corner pocket. Don't go into unpredictable cluster.
7:57 Draw on the 1 ball so your cue ball go towards the 6.
9:13 The shot on the 1 ball is what most amateurs do. "Simple stop shot on the simplest shot." Then wrong side on the 2 ball, and you hit the 3. You should've drawn back on the 1 ball, cut the 2 ball in, hit the rail, and come out for the 3 ball.
9:37 Hit 9 o'clock and more firmly. Not a rolling center ball.
9:48 If you wanna hit the other side of the corner (with the chalk), you need much more spin and actually hit it softer. You spin it off the 1st rail, not draw it off.
11:46 Go up table more if you don't wanna scratch. Not by hitting it soft.
 
Way to put yourself out there:) I put you at a mid C player. (I'm right with you...)

At the shot at 4:05, did you think the CB was going to run into the 8? I can't figure out what you were doing there?

You seemed to be decent at making shots, but some of your pattern play was way off. You were setting yourself up to be straight in (even with BIH), instead of setting yourself up for an angle.
 
PS. I said to myself, "this guy is strong!" when I saw your forearms, and then I saw the text by your avatar... Skinny dude here trying to grow his muscles. lol
 
Just curious if you're a part of a rating system or an organization with a rating system and what that rating might be.
 
Knowing no more than I do from the video, I'm also going with a C+.
Be more deliberate and don't shoot so hard. :)
 
I appreciate all the feedback.
Please understand this is just my normal practice routine... I will try to get a video of "dedicated play" later tonight, but we will see how the kids act lol

As far as any rating system... The only reference that I have is a Maryland BCA 8 ball league I played in 2 years ago.

My usual average was 41 out of 50... Not sure what that tells you though


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