Kids in college do not gamble. I have no idea where the myth of the hustler busting rich college kids willing to gamble it all came from, but its completely inaccurate. If you offer to gamble with ANYONE at most colleges they will immediately say no assuming you are far better than them, and the best player in a school may decide to play for $20 bucks. That's my experience at a few university game rooms. Not to mention if your name gets out to the administration they won't be as romanced by your hustlerness one bit.
Hustlin' a Hustler
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I would have to agree with you henho. I used to try to get games at some colleges when I was not much older than most of the college kids, and most everyone said no. High stakes was about $20! I would visit some friends there. I think the most I ever won was around $45 on a single day from multple players. I probably invested about five hours to do it too. There are probably some exceptions out there like some fancy private colleges or something, but not in my experience.
When I was in college, I used to go up to the army base day rooms and play quarter and 50 cent 9 ball with young G. I.'s most of whom were about to be shipped off to Viet Nam. Met lot of good people.
I ran the rec room at my college and never played anyone for money. If you asked anyone to play for money, they'd scatter like a covey of quail and it was a rich kid's university.
Too bad they didn't offer a degree in poolology. I would have graduated with honors.
Bob Jewett took it a few steps further than me. I believe he wrote a thesis on the theory of rotating sheres as I remember reading somewhere.
Bob? Any college experiences you'd like to share?
I ran the rec room at my college and never played anyone for money. If you asked anyone to play for money, they'd scatter like a covey of quail and it was a rich kid's university.
Too bad they didn't offer a degree in poolology. I would have graduated with honors.
Bob Jewett took it a few steps further than me. I believe he wrote a thesis on the theory of rotating sheres as I remember reading somewhere.
Bob? Any college experiences you'd like to share?
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LoGiC said:
Who is your grandpa?
henho said:
I think what you should have said is college kids don't gamble much on pool. College kids do gamble but it is usually on cards or sports. Ask a few bookies in college towns how they are doing. My bet is they will say very well.
Are you going to find the $10,000-$20,000 one night sucker? Probably not. But in most college towns you can find some decent card games and probably quite a few people that are deep in the hole on sports gambling.
Nathan
To each there own, everyone has or has heard of a hustling story that can "top" someone elses. Everyone lives in their own "environment" which dictates, enjoy the story for what it is. If you read the story and only took "I won an $8 sub" then you missed the point...
Last night I beat the state 9 ball champion during league.
She was the womens state champ about 6 yrs ago.
We were playing 8 ball.
I live in the second smallest state after RI
It was APA league...
Well at least there were some great homemade cookies there, and we didn't have to eat pizza again...
I really pulled one hell of a hustle last night....
McCue Banger McCue
She was the womens state champ about 6 yrs ago.
We were playing 8 ball.
I live in the second smallest state after RI
It was APA league...
Well at least there were some great homemade cookies there, and we didn't have to eat pizza again...
I really pulled one hell of a hustle last night....
McCue Banger McCue
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Part One
I got a hustlin' a hustler story! I've mentioned it before on this forum, but it bears mentioning again.
'Bout 3 years ago, we were attending the $25,000 Viking Tour season finale tournament in North-something, Ohio. Larry Nevel won it that year, Mike Davis came in second place, and Johnny Archer came in third. There was a little fireworks in the Davis vs. Archer match, but that's another story.
The pool room was packed, and it was the eve of the finals day. So, if a player was fixing to gamble, it was the last call for action. Ohio has a lot of tough players, and most of them were there. Rather than matching up the standard way, Keith who's a pretty good one-handed player, learning from the best (Ronnie Allen), targets none other than Corey Duel.
Now, he knew Corey, being in his homestate at that time, was probably holding pretty good or at least could get a committee together. So he decided to try to fenagle him a spot. So he propositioned Corey that if Corey would spot him a few balls, Keith would play each shot one-handed, a nickel a set.
Here's a snapshot of Keith directing traffic!
JAM
I got a hustlin' a hustler story! I've mentioned it before on this forum, but it bears mentioning again.
'Bout 3 years ago, we were attending the $25,000 Viking Tour season finale tournament in North-something, Ohio. Larry Nevel won it that year, Mike Davis came in second place, and Johnny Archer came in third. There was a little fireworks in the Davis vs. Archer match, but that's another story.
The pool room was packed, and it was the eve of the finals day. So, if a player was fixing to gamble, it was the last call for action. Ohio has a lot of tough players, and most of them were there. Rather than matching up the standard way, Keith who's a pretty good one-handed player, learning from the best (Ronnie Allen), targets none other than Corey Duel.
Now, he knew Corey, being in his homestate at that time, was probably holding pretty good or at least could get a committee together. So he decided to try to fenagle him a spot. So he propositioned Corey that if Corey would spot him a few balls, Keith would play each shot one-handed, a nickel a set.
Here's a snapshot of Keith directing traffic!
JAM
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Part Two
Corey paused strategically. While he mulled it over, he huddled with his pal, Dee Adkins, and soon came back with a proposition for Keith. He'd play Keith even, with no spot, with Corey shooting each shot with the mechanical bridge. Keith licked his chops and said, "You're on."
Corey didn't lick his chops, but the members of his backers committee were!
JAM
Corey paused strategically. While he mulled it over, he huddled with his pal, Dee Adkins, and soon came back with a proposition for Keith. He'd play Keith even, with no spot, with Corey shooting each shot with the mechanical bridge. Keith licked his chops and said, "You're on."
Corey didn't lick his chops, but the members of his backers committee were!
JAM
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Unbeknownst to Keith, Corey is a rake mechanic, and while Keith thought he had the dead nuts, Corey barbecued him in record time. The hometown crowd cheered, and Keith realized he stepped into quicksand. Fortunately, it didn't weigh too much, but I think it did go for 2 sets.
This picture was taken before the match, obviously!
JAM
Unbeknownst to Keith, Corey is a rake mechanic, and while Keith thought he had the dead nuts, Corey barbecued him in record time. The hometown crowd cheered, and Keith realized he stepped into quicksand. Fortunately, it didn't weigh too much, but I think it did go for 2 sets.
This picture was taken before the match, obviously!
JAM
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JAM said:Unbeknownst to Keith, Corey is a rake mechanic, and while Keith thought he had the dead nuts, Corey barbecued him in record time. The hometown crowd cheered, and Keith realized he stepped into quicksand. Fortunately, it didn't weigh too much, but I think it did go for 2 sets.
This picture was taken before the match, obviously!
JAM
All I wanna know is, did they eat subs together after the match?????
henho said:
Totally agree on this, but as with most things there are exceptions. Johnny Ferber in Gainesville, Florida use to regularly get the UF frat boys to play him some for 50 and 100. These are guys that would be underdogs to run out with ball in hand on the 7. Johnny could have given them the last 4 or last 5 and was in many cases getting weight from them. That Ferber sure can get the action started. He is the one that took Stevie Moore in the very early 90s on a few trips where they came back with pockets bulging.
Never worked for me either. In college, before I even knew which end of the cue to hold, there were Thieves that would come up to get what little money I had. They weren't hustlers or gamblers, just thieves. Soon I was taken to the back corner where the 3Cushion table was, by an 80 year old man who just wanted to teach. The rest is history for me. I never left the game. Why? No more thieves, only occasional honest friendly wagering for the time or a fin between equals to add a little excitement. Whenever I lay down a significant bet is only when I want to teach a man a lesson. So I go after it just like you did. A one time lesson, take the money and show him the door. Agreed, financially the wrong move but it's not the money that entices a bet.LoGiC said:
Logic:
I have to say first that congratz on the 5-0 thing. That is an accomplishment.
But I have to say two wrongs do not make a right.
Just b/c u think he is 'hustling' others, what makes it more right that u 'hustle' him?
I do have to admit, it may feel better, but that's my point. Only u and maybe ur friends feel better, but the opponent has not really learned a lesson.... other than the obvious.
Normally, when attempting to change one's behavior, it cannot result from a single action, unless totally traumatic. Much like practice sessions. U can't just get better by doing it once.
As for the definition of 'hustle', i am left clueless.... i don't have much info to derive at a serious answer. But I did look at it this way:
I recently formed an APA 8 ball team in which NONE of the members are familiar of. Two of which definitely (at least in my opinion) have better skills than I. I played one of them with APA rules and won a race twice (3-0, 3-0) and then the other, one race. (3-0). But I don't think that makes me a hustler. I just knew the rules better and explained to them what they could have done to make the match a bit tighter. As the day progress forward to the community league we have, I lost 0-2 to someone lower than I am.... does that make him a 'hustler'?
Just a note:
I am not bashing ur game.... winning 5-0 is a great accomplishment. I just disagree on ur thought process of how to 'change' his behavior to others. Only he can do that.
I have to say first that congratz on the 5-0 thing. That is an accomplishment.
But I have to say two wrongs do not make a right.
Just b/c u think he is 'hustling' others, what makes it more right that u 'hustle' him?
I do have to admit, it may feel better, but that's my point. Only u and maybe ur friends feel better, but the opponent has not really learned a lesson.... other than the obvious.
Normally, when attempting to change one's behavior, it cannot result from a single action, unless totally traumatic. Much like practice sessions. U can't just get better by doing it once.
As for the definition of 'hustle', i am left clueless.... i don't have much info to derive at a serious answer. But I did look at it this way:
I recently formed an APA 8 ball team in which NONE of the members are familiar of. Two of which definitely (at least in my opinion) have better skills than I. I played one of them with APA rules and won a race twice (3-0, 3-0) and then the other, one race. (3-0). But I don't think that makes me a hustler. I just knew the rules better and explained to them what they could have done to make the match a bit tighter. As the day progress forward to the community league we have, I lost 0-2 to someone lower than I am.... does that make him a 'hustler'?
Just a note:
I am not bashing ur game.... winning 5-0 is a great accomplishment. I just disagree on ur thought process of how to 'change' his behavior to others. Only he can do that.
I know a young guy who would probably post stories like this on here if he was a member. He is so full of himself with some patience I can usually get him to give me the 8 or the last two playing 9-ball. It is a lock for me every time we play. He is so impressed with himself that when he loses he thinks I am just getting lucky. Nope, he's getting "hustled"
Care to explain how a race to 5 in which you made 2 9s on the break and an early combination lasted "all of 30 minutes"? It should've taken, even with the safety battle in the 4th game, 15 minutes. And that would be slow.
My hunch is your opponent shot a little more than you are telling us, or you need to work on your speed/rhythm.
I have news for you... nobody notices or cares what side you are breaking from.
Finally, does this mean:
"I had to call a push, and
that you can make 2 rail banks in your sleep?
- Steve
My hunch is your opponent shot a little more than you are telling us, or you need to work on your speed/rhythm.
I have news for you... nobody notices or cares what side you are breaking from.
Finally, does this mean:
"I had to call a push, and
him with a seemingly tough bank, one I can do in my sleep... The only shot on the one was a 2 rail bank, the 1 rail bank was blocked and he was at too much an angle to cut it."
that you can make 2 rail banks in your sleep?
- Steve
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