I.D. on this cue Please.

VietSoClassic

VietSoClassic

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I just bought this and waiting for it to come in. I was wondering what kind of cue is this? I looks pretty cool and bought it for $75. What kind of thread is this and the shaft looks like it has a plastic insert in it.

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Thanks for looking.
 
VietSoClassic said:
I just bought this and waiting for it to come in. I was wondering what kind of cue is this? I looks pretty cool and bought it for $75. What kind of thread is this and the shaft looks like it has a plastic insert in it.

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Thanks for looking.
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The cue is a very early cue made by Paul Huebler. The linen wrap is Courtland Irish Linen, which means it was made in the 1970's. However, the bumper design is the real key to dating this cue, and due to this it made in 1975 or before. Now keep mind that Huebler made later models of this design which was one of his early product designs. But cues made after the mid-1970's has Paul's reddish brown bumper, which was as big as the the bottom of the butt cap. The cues pin is a brass 5 1/6-18 thread that was used by Paul into the 1990's. The cue also has his signature nylon insert in the shaft.

Oh and by the way, I am almost certain that the Linen is Courtland #9 the same that Balabushka used. In fact this cue was most likely made while George was still alive. The White material that Paul was using in the joints at this time was called Implex. It was a very strong type of plastic material that has certain stood the test of time. I do not think it made any more.

Nice find, and have a good night!!!!!!
 
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Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

After I get this, I was going to get it cleaned up and refinished, maybe change the wrap.
 
I would personally leave the wrap....maybe have it cleaned....but have the rest of the cue cleaned up and maybe use an oil/hand rubbed finish on it. That way, the classic look and original wrap would remain on the cue.

Just my opinion though...
 
Yea I was just thinking about that. Keep the original and some how get it cleaned. Courtland #9 linen... is this a special wrap used around that time and still is today?

I guess it depends when I get it and what condition it is at.

Thanks.
 
VietSoClassic said:
Yea I was just thinking about that. Keep the original and some how get it cleaned. Courtland #9 linen... is this a special wrap used around that time and still is today?

I guess it depends when I get it and what condition it is at.

Thanks.
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This wrap is not common anymore, the Courtland Company stopped producing Irish Linen for wraps in the late 1970's. Like I said before, #9 was the preffered material used by George Balabushka, Gus Szamboti, Palmer Custom cues and many others. This material is kinda expensive to replace today, I normally charge $115 to rewrap a cue with original Courtland. Now I will normally only use this material on a vintage cue that had it during a restoration.

I agree with the other poster, do not replace the linen, just have it cleaned by someone who knows what they are doing. If I were you I would leave the cue as Ogrinal as possible.

Hope this helps!!!!
 
The Huebler Cue just came in. I will take close up pictures of it later. The condition I say 7.5-8 out of 10. Tip is 11mm. I will clean up the shaft before taking the picture.

Also on ebay there was one that look exactly the same and was sold for $300+ so my $75 for this cue was well worth it.
 
nice buy viet

I have the same model, purchased in '78. By the way, it also has a small black bumper, possibly a bit smaller than the one pictured.

Mine is in excellent shape, but the wrap has a fair amount of chalk stain. any good advice on cleaning it up?

Thanks
 
Well you saw the before picture... this is the after, after I cleaned up the dirt and scum for the joint, shaft, butt, and some on the wrap. I just used Q CLEAN to clean it up and still is dirty.

The tip is 11mm, weight is 20-21oz.

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Whole Cue
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Tip 11mm theres a VERY small gap at the ferrule and shaft
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Joint. A whole lot cleaner.
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For some reason I can't take the rubber butt off.
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Joint apart. A whole lot cleaner.
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Tell me what you guys/gals think!!!
 
strtshtr said:
nice buy viet

I have the same model, purchased in '78. By the way, it also has a small black bumper, possibly a bit smaller than the one pictured.

Mine is in excellent shape, but the wrap has a fair amount of chalk stain. any good advice on cleaning it up?

Thanks
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Thanks

Cleaning the wrap, I really couldn't tell you how to clean that up but I used the "Q CLEAN" powder substance, damp rage and wipe it down. BUT this is used for shaft only but I was like what the heck, it will clean and it took alot out of it.
 
Great find and a great buy!!! I'd love to find an old Huebler for $75!

As far as cleaning the wrap, Diamondback (not sure if they're still in business) makes an Irish linen cleaner that may work well on your Cortland wrap.

Jim
 
The shaft has a slight wobble, need to put a tip on and redo the ferrule... I'm not sure what type of ferrule it is but it was glowing and its not ivory.
 
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