I dont get it??

[drivermaker]

bankNfoo,

My advise for you is short and sweet.

1. Don't let anything come between you and your education.

2. If you have questions ask the pro's in the pro section.

3. You have an ignore list put drivermaker, sjm, white wolf and CaptainJR or anyone else on it that doesn't treat you with respect. The billiard forum windbags are nothing but handicap league players who couldn't hit a bull in the butt with a base fiddle with out there sand bags.

4. Stay out of the main forum as so many people in it are spam handlers or know nothings. Ask your questions of JoeT, Bob Jewett, Bludd, Pelican, Grady, Colin Colenso, Fast Larry, Charlie Williams or Hemicudas. People who have played and studied pool for years and will have respect for you no matter your age.

5. If you have questions about how to handle pool and school I will put you in touch with Ms. Tiffany Nelson who has played pool since she was 12 years old and is now a beautiful young lady with a university degree and is spokes women for the the BCA Juinor Program.

6. Most important of all don't ever give up your dreams. With hard work they will all come true.

Sincerely,

"Gremlin"

LMAO as usual at the Gremlin...actually there is some very good advice here.
#1; #2; #4; #5; and #6 is good. Therefore I suggest that you PM EACH one of them for advice, along with Gremlin, any time you need personal assistance and help. I'll bet each of them can't wait to hear from you and lead you down the right path. In addition to that, you can go to the following sites that have forums without "meanies" like us:
www.billiards-pool.net
www.insidepool.com and www.billiardsdigest.com On here, you can search the old posts and archives until you reach 25 years of age because all of the questions have been asked and answered. They're all here already right here for the taking.

#3 is a real hoot and knee slapper, especially since SJM is probably one of the most articulate and classiest guys on here, not to speak any less of my two other partners in crime. Personally, I've never belonged to a league in my life. I've played for money in my 44 years of pool playing and broke guys like Gremlin so that they NEVER wanted to come back. Hey, maybe I did...that's why he turned into a groupie with a camera. LOL

 

[matthew]

bankNfoo,

My advise for you is short and sweet.

1. Don't let anything come between you and your education.

2. If you have questions ask the pro's in the pro section.

3. You have an ignore list put drivermaker, sjm, white wolf and CaptainJR or anyone else on it that doesn't treat you with respect. The billiard forum windbags are nothing but handicap league players who couldn't hit a bull in the butt with a base fiddle with out there sand bags.

4. Stay out of the main forum as so many people in it are spam handlers or know nothings. Ask your questions of JoeT, Bob Jewett, Bludd, Pelican, Grady, Colin Colenso, Fast Larry, Charlie Williams or Hemicudas. People who have played and studied pool for years and will have respect for you no matter your age.

5. If you have questions about how to handle pool and school I will put you in touch with Ms. Tiffany Nelson who has played pool since she was 12 years old and is now a beautiful young lady with a university degree and is spokes women for the the BCA Juinor Program.

6. Most important of all don't ever give up your dreams. With hard work they will all come true.

Photo of Tiffany Attached:

Sincerely,

"Gremlin"

Some of this is actually good advice, numbers 1,2,5, and 6. I don't think any of us have been rude to him. I just think that we all want him to succeed in life. Ask all those pros what happens when you lose and finish out of the money. Ask them if they have medical benefits or a pension plan. School can only help you. Pool, sometimes it's hit or miss.

 

[wayne]

the 1st day i posted somthing i have been getting stuff like "your a kid dont play ppol read a book and shut up you dont know anything" i was just trying to learn and some of you have a problem with it i dont know why can you plz tell me why its a big deal that i ask ?s

It is perfectly ok for you to be here and communicate and anyone trying to convince otherwise, you should probably categorize as not your friend. Respecting adults is not a one-way street, if they show you respect then respect them, if they don't then ignore them because they aren't worthy of your respect. Pool can be very educational and there is much to learn about people and games, and since life itself is supposed to be a game you can learn to apply what you learn to life. That's all the philosophy I am going to spout for now.

Someone mentioned "Catcher in the Rye" and some of the "advise" being given reminded me of what the boy would say in the novel "That's depressing." (Take the advise that makes you feel good and use it and just ignore the rest as bad advise).

Wayne

 

[matthew]

It is perfectly ok for you to be here and communicate and anyone trying to convince otherwise, you should probably categorize as not your friend. Respecting adults is not a one-way street, if they show you respect then respect them, if they don't then ignore them because they aren't worthy of your respect. Pool can be very educational and there is much to learn about people and games, and since life itself is supposed to be a game you can learn to apply what you learn to life. That's all the philosophy I am going to spout for now.

Someone mentioned "Catcher in the Rye" and some of the "advise" being given reminded me of what the boy would say in the novel "That's depressing." (Take the advise that makes you feel good and use it and just ignore the rest as bad advise).

Wayne

I mentioned Catcher in the Rye because it's an excellent book. I don't really agree that advice which doesn't make you feel good, is bad advice. Sometimes what people say makes you feel uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean it holds any less merit. As the saying goes, correlation doesn't equal causation. It doesn't seem like a good idea to judge a person's statement by how it relates to your emotions.

 

[drivermaker]

I could be mistaken but is not GREMLIN a girl????? I went to the post and there are two pictures on top of the web page that have "GREMLIN" next to the picture of a girl shooting pool...(actually the whole website is women shooting pool....

Back to the thread....I don't think the kid posting or shooting pool is a problem...

Well...unless "Harry" is "Harriet" on she-male dress up night, and very possible, I guess that COULD be the case. He is the self-appointed, official, (actually unofficial) skirt chasing photographer of the WPBA. A legend in his own mind......

I don't think a kid shooting pool is a problem either...as well as baseball, football, soccer, golf, or anything else. I had a miniature table that I used to play on starting at age 5. A kid posting AND shooting pool could be a problem due to the time spent doing it, as well as the fact that there IS an age limit on THIS forum that requires parental consent. Look at all of the hassle it's caused just among all of us because it's not been followed. Let his own parents take care of what's best for him. I'll bet they don't even know he's on here or how much time he spends on a computer jerking around anyway. How much time did you spend on "forums" of any kind as a kid, especially amongst adults? I'll bet NONE...that's why you're so swift now.

 

[TheOne]

My story, take from it what you want.

I started playing at 9 in kids league and started making the local paper regulary. Parents bought me a couple of home tables and I played on them for hours every night. at 15 I started playing for a local pool team in a fairly rough pub (Father wasn't keen but he trusted me). Started playing for money in front of big crowds also at 15. Finished school with average grades, big underacheivement. Spoke to career adviser and became the first kid in UK to do a government sponsored snooker training scheme. After a couple of years I decided to go back to school for various reason, mainly lack of funding and also probably trying to do the right thing. I gave up the game seriously for 7 years and got an IT degree. I got a good job in London and started playing a little pool again. I got offered a wild card to play 8 ball the the national side and also won a few tournaments but my job offered me a move to Australia to set up a new office. AGAIN I turned pool down. Now over 3 years later I'm fed up with sitting behind a PC all day.

The thing is I always promised myself that I would get a Degree and then go back to pool (since I would always have the degree as a back up). For some reason I forgot about this promise and I have now spent about 5 years working and playing little.

So twice I turned Billiards down to chase a career, do I regret it - HELL YEAH! I'm overweight for the first time in my life, I need glasses and there's not a quality pool hall in sight around here!!! So I've quit!, on Dec 17th I'm off to Asia for 4-6 months to practice everyday and try and get fit again LOL!

Then I'm off to win a few comps in Vegas and Reno -) and hopefully try and qualify for the words in the UK. I've had enough!

Moral of the story, yes education is important but dreams are too, I did the right thing by everybody except myself. Now its my turn, the one good thing I would say about pool is its not a young mans game like snooker so if you go straight through school you could have a degree and still be very young. I am 30 and it may be to late for me to get back into it but I'm going to have a damn good time finding the answer to that question - ask me again in 6 months!

PS
I woudn't be able to fund this mad dream without my degree and I guess I should also share that I will be setting up a freelance web agency to try to pick up work along the way - so if anyone needs a website )

Hope this helps someone?

 

[JDB]

Back to the thread....I don't think the kid posting or shooting pool is a problem...Kids that only do school work and never get in ANY social activity..."After school activities" ....(sports, chess club, student union, etc) never learn any scocial skills and end up like Micheal Douglas in the movie "Going Home"...(Not sure if that is the right title)

Falling Down maybe?...lol. That is the movie I thought of in the context you were speaking, but I could be wrong... but Falling Down has to be close to what you were talking about...lol.

 

[nfty9er]

Feeble

Hey pops...and how much time did you spend as a kid playing sports IN ADDITION TO living on a computer haggling with old road players, gamblers, and pool room warriors that have a propensity for an occasional outburst amongst themselves, as some of the political arguments are flying around now.
If you recall...Dick Cheney just told someone to go f*#k themself. It happens here too. Ooooops...I bet you never even had a computer to waste that time as a kid, did you? Do your kids waste hours chatting with grownups on forums in addition to sports, studies, chores, and other activities? What's next, maybe we should ask them out with us to have a beer after all is said and done, it shouldn't make them turn out any less a good human being...we do it and look at us.

First of all only my kids and good friends call me "pops" because it is respectful slang. You do not seem to respect anybodyl, especially 12 year olds.So please don't assume you are my friend yet. IN ADDITION you know I am too old to have had a computer as a kid but I did have enough time to haggle with players, gamblers and warriors
in growing up in Cochrans in S.F. My time was not wasted. I graduated college, have a nice home and own my own business and probably can kick your ass in pool. So am I the minority or the majority? You talk in riddles.
My kids are grown and they did all the above. Talking to grownups is not a waste. You have no common sense sir. You assume if you take up pool you become a bum. No I did not take them out for beer but I did take them out.
And who told anyone to go f..k them selves? You do not debate the points I made but you manage to insult my opinion. If the kids gets up at 6:30 more power to him(wish my kids always did that) He is on the computer at 7:10, boy big deal, school starts probably at 8. Sometimes these threads take forever on a slow day, hell he can get a lot done between them. See you assume again, maybe he lives across the street from his school. Seems to me he is not wasting any time of his life. If you do not want him to mingle with adults just ignore him, do not insult him.


No one has said education is not a priority. College however is not for everybody. You assume again that everyone must go.

 

[matthew]

bankNfoo,

Are you reading the childish comments by drivermaker a pool player in his own mind and RichardCranium Rodd's butt buddy because I am not. I put drivermaker, RichardCranium, Rodd, Captjr, sjm, and williebetmore on my ignore list and now it numbers 30 fools. There are still 2,595 forum members
out there so don't get the idea that drivermaker or RichardCranium represent anyone but themselves.

The worst thing that can happen to people like them is to ignore them and that is what I do.

Stick with your dream like theone says.

Cheers,

"Gremlin"

I don't quite understand how you become the way you are? Drivermaker and SJM, Capt Jr. are just trying to make a point, that pool isn't everything in life. That it's an incredibly difficult road to follow. If that's what you see, then you might as well put me in the same group.

There's a huge difference between fullfilling your dreams and coming close, or falling short. The ones that come close end up losing out.

Ask all those professional pool player friends you have. How many of them have a plan when they get to be 65 and want to quit? How many of them have medical benefits or have job security? It's not an easy path to follow, and whoever considers that life deserves a choice.

 

[nfty9er]

Your story is not unusual

When I was in high school I watched alot of my friends who played football and basketball give everything they had to their respective sports. Not all, but many of them didn't put much effort into the academic part of their lives. Two of them went on to play college ball and got hurt. One tore his ACL, and the other hurt his shoulder. They couldn't play ball and lost their scholarships. Neither of them had the academic background to stick through school.

Sports are great for a young person growing, they teach you so many things that you can't learn in a classroom. But what happens when you put everything into sports, and you fall short? What happens when you go to apply for a decent paying job. The interviewer asks, "what can you bring to our organization?" "Well, I threw for 300 yards against The University of Michigan last year, but I didn't finish school."

People in the United States put so much into their kids when they play high school sports, but not enough into educating their kids. Education is incredibly important, and it never fails you. You get out 10 times what you put into it. Even in college, I've watched my friends have to leave school without a degree because their 4 years of eligibility is up, and they can't get through their classes.

I'm not telling this young man to quit playing pool. Just make sure you get an education. Your education never fails you. It rewards and enriches so many aspects of your life.

We all probably know people that have gone through that. The point is not everyone can adapt or graduate. It just does not work for some people. Although many laborers are college graduates most are not. Where would we be without these fine "uneducated" people. Edcuation does not guarantee success. Here is a little poem I made up as a child with some help and I always quoted it to my kids. All of them did not take it to heart.

Labor for learning before you grow old
Learning is better than silver and gold
Silver and Gold will melt away
But learning will never no never decay.

 

[Top Spin]

Momma, don't let your kids grow up to be pool players. Sad, but true.

 

[drivermaker]

First of all only my kids and good friends call me "pops" because it is respectful slang. You do not seem to respect anybodyl, especially 12 year olds.So please don't assume you are my friend yet. IN ADDITION you know I am too old to have had a computer as a kid but I did have enough time to haggle with players, gamblers and warriors
in growing up in Cochrans in S.F. My time was not wasted. I graduated college, have a nice home and own my own business and probably can kick your ass in pool. So am I the minority or the majority? You talk in riddles.
My kids are grown and they did all the above. Talking to grownups is not a waste. You have no common sense sir. You assume if you take up pool you become a bum. No I did not take them out for beer but I did take them out.
And who told anyone to go f..k them selves? You do not debate the points I made but you manage to insult my opinion. If the kids gets up at 6:30 more power to him(wish my kids always did that) He is on the computer at 7:10, boy big deal, school starts probably at 8. Sometimes these threads take forever on a slow day, hell he can get a lot done between them. See you assume again, maybe he lives across the street from his school. Seems to me he is not wasting any time of his life. If you do not want him to mingle with adults just ignore him, do not insult him.


No one has said education is not a priority. College however is not for everybody. You assume again that everyone must go.

The fact that you raised 7 kids gives you the title of "pops". Now THAT was one hell of a "pops" job and had nothing to do with disrespect, so cool your tool. But from the sounds of your post, you did play "pops" to your kids. You did things with them, you taught them, and all of you had shared experiences.
I guess you miss it so much that you want to now take on a "foster" child and father him through this forum, along with that moron Gremlin.

Kids in this day and age spend far to much time on the internet, cell phones, text messaging each other, and all of the other garbage that modern day technology has provided. I'll bet YOUR kids weren't on internet forums or chat rooms. Why? Because they were more than likely either directly involved playing the sports or activities, or chatting with you and their mother, not a bunch of cyberspace strangers. Yeah...that's real good for parent/child bonding and a closeness that will grow thoughout the rest of their life. Talk to a bunch of strangers all across the world for your education.

Do you have any idea if this kids parents even know that he's on a forum and the amount of time he spends on it? If YOUR kids did it, would you be concerned? How great do you think it would be if his own father learned and shared the experience of playing pool with the kid together? When I grew up the computer didn't exist. But my father did and WE played all kinds of sports together and chat sessions went on in the home. Three years ago my father passed away but those memories sure haven't and never will. And you better damn well be sure that it wouldn't have taken place if there was a f*#ked up computer available for me to go on and talk with a bunch of strangers.

Yet, YOU want to take on more parental responsibilities and spend time with the kid along with anyone else on here. Hey...the kid needs to go talk to his parents and learn from them. Parents of today are abdicating their role to teachers in school systems, coaches of organized sports, babysitters, pre-school, or anywhere else. They don't need the internet to help it along. Wake up pops...for someone that went to college and runs a business you sure sound like a dolt.

And one more thing that I get sick of hearing is some idiot thinking that they have the pool game of pool games and I can't play a lick. I've been playing this game for 44 years with a passion and intensity of just about anyone. While you were playing father to your brood, I was playing against guys that whole time that made you look like a hack, which you more than likely are, so don't give me that shit you loser. I won a lot and I lost, which is the life of a true warrior in a room, and it was NEVER playing in some bullshit league. What's next on your part...the obligatory internet gunfight challenge at high noon to go play somewhere to prove who's best? Please do...that would truly prove idiocy.

 

[drivermaker]

bankNfoo,

Are you reading the childish comments by drivermaker a pool player in his own mind and RichardCranium Rodd's butt buddy because I am not. I put drivermaker, RichardCranium, Rodd, Captjr, sjm, and williebetmore on my ignore list and now it numbers 30 fools.
"Gremlin"

And this is EXACTLY why a 12 year old kid shouldn't be on here. Why on earth would a grown man, stupid but grown, be addressing a child in his post and explaining HIS take on somebody and referring to them as a "BUTT BUDDY" and "FOOLS"!! Gremlin...you really are a STUPID OLD SON OF A BITCH. I don't know what's wrong with you but you definitely don't have both oars in the water. If a kid is on here, and hopefully he left and never comes back, this is the kind of stupidity along with what this thread has turned into that kids don't need to be around. GOT IT YET????!!!!!!

 

[LastTwo]

ROFL you don't wanna know what many of the WPBA players think of Gremlin.....

 

[1pRoscoe]

wow, and 18 hours later.....

 

[drivermaker]

Momma, don't let your kids grow up to be pool players. Sad, but true.

Yeah, Top Spin...and here's a REAL DOSE of reality from a Momma...
think she isn't dying inside with every passing moment? These whacko forum dogooders on here need to wake up to the things that can happen and very possibly through internet forums.

http://www.billiardsdigest.com/ccboard/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=ccb

Go down to the thread "Anyone Seen Juliette"? (Runaway) MOM

 

[matthew]

We all probably know people that have gone through that. The point is not everyone can adapt or graduate. It just does not work for some people. Although many laborers are college graduates most are not. Where would we be without these fine "uneducated" people. Edcuation does not guarantee success. Here is a little poem I made up as a child with some help and I always quoted it to my kids. All of them did not take it to heart.

Labor for learning before you grow old
Learning is better than silver and gold
Silver and Gold will melt away
But learning will never no never decay.

There's nothing wrong with not being educated. But the person that isn't, should have had a choice. They should have at least given school a shot and looked for something they were passionate about, besides high school football.

Education doesn't guarantee success, nothing can do that. It sure gives you a better shot than nothing at all.

 

[nfty9er]

The longer your post the more worked up u get.

The fact that you raised 7 kids gives you the title of "pops". Now THAT was one hell of a "pops" job and had nothing to do with disrespect, so cool your tool. But from the sounds of your post, you did play "pops" to your kids. You did things with them, you taught them, and all of you had shared experiences.
I guess you miss it so much that you want to now take on a "foster" child and father him through this forum, along with that moron Gremlin.

Kids in this day and age spend far to much time on the internet, cell phones, text messaging each other, and all of the other garbage that modern day technology has provided. I'll bet YOUR kids weren't on internet forums or chat rooms. Why? Because they were more than likely either directly involved playing the sports or activities, or chatting with you and their mother, not a bunch of cyberspace strangers. Yeah...that's real good for parent/child bonding and a closeness that will grow thoughout the rest of their life. Talk to a bunch of strangers all across the world for your education.

Do you have any idea if this kids parents even know that he's on a forum and the amount of time he spends on it? If YOUR kids did it, would you be concerned? How great do you think it would be if his own father learned and shared the experience of playing pool with the kid together? When I grew up the computer didn't exist. But my father did and WE played all kinds of sports together and chat sessions went on in the home. Three years ago my father passed away but those memories sure haven't and never will. And you better damn well be sure that it wouldn't have taken place if there was a f*#ked up computer available for me to go on and talk with a bunch of strangers.

Yet, YOU want to take on more parental responsibilities and spend time with the kid along with anyone else on here. Hey...the kid needs to go talk to his parents and learn from them. Parents of today are abdicating their role to teachers in school systems, coaches of organized sports, babysitters, pre-school, or anywhere else. They don't need the internet to help it along. Wake up pops...for someone that went to college and runs a business you sure sound like a dolt.

And one more thing that I get sick of hearing is some idiot thinking that they have the pool game of pool games and I can't play a lick. I've been playing this game for 44 years with a passion and intensity of just about anyone. While you were playing father to your brood, I was playing against guys that whole time that made you look like a hack, which you more than likely are, so don't give me that shit you loser. I won a lot and I lost, which is the life of a true warrior in a room, and it was NEVER playing in some bullshit league. What's next on your part...the obligatory internet gunfight challenge at high noon to go play somewhere to prove who's best? Please do...that would truly prove idiocy.

You started out making sense but you get flamed the farther you go and you keep assuming facts and your answer is based on speculation. I am not being a foster father to anyone. You think you are guiding a kid you have no idea what he does with his parents or in school or with his free time. You have no idea his relationship with his parents that is why your comments hold no stead. Maybe his father does share with him. Don't comment if you don't know. Do you live in a cave man? The kids you put down are in the minority.
You give no credit where credit is due because you have no idea. All schools wire wired now with the internet you fool and if they had it in my day I would have partaked. And by the way I played and coached all sports with my kids. I had 3 on one Little League team at once. We had a ball and we played pool. You know why you dolt(what the hell is a dolt), I assume it is derogatory so back at you. You know why, my business is a pool hall you moron and has been for 30 years so you stuck your foot in your mouth. We did it all together. So the statement stands I probably can kick your ass in pool and I never played in leagues in my life. Only for the cash. I do not need to set up anything. You put up them money if we ever meet and play. Period. By the way I have two sons that are also 0 handicap golfers. And one son that could also kick your ass in pool. So I guess they did not have any bringing up cause they were pool hall bums. ha ha ha.

The next time you respond to someone do not do it on assumption and speculation. The point is you cannot assume this kid is spending all his time on a forum.
WHAT THE HELL IS A DOLT AGAIN? MY EDUCATION DID NOT INCLUDE THAT WORD.
P.S. The only proven idiot is you and I will not lower myself.

 

[drivermaker]

You give no credit where credit is due because you have no idea. All schools wire wired now with the internet you fool and if they had it in my day I would have partaked.
P.S. The only proven idiot is you and I will not lower myself.

Kids aren't in class at 6:30 am numbnuts, which is when he posted.
Here he is....the consummate DOLT and idiot. Go to the internet dictionary and look it up. Your vocabulary could use a boost. Hey dolt, I guess you didn't click onto the Billiards Digest Forum website either that's listed about the lost pool playing young girl, did you? I think you should because it's a good dose of reality of what can and does go on in this world, including pool.
Everything isn't hunky dorry like your own little piss ant world of Ward Cleaver.
Kids get screwed up with the game, and even moreso with internet whacko's.

I knew you were going to do it...I just had that sixth sense that you were the assholes asshole that was going to make the cross country woofing pool money challenge. You didn't let me down either, you asshole dolt. (Look it up) BTW, you already lowered yourself with your stupid comments that make no sense. Right now you're down there where whale shit lies, and that's about as low as it gets.

 

[matthew]

You started out making sense but you get flamed the farther you go and you keep assuming facts and your answer is based on speculation. I am not being a foster father to anyone. You think you are guiding a kid you have no idea what he does with his parents or in school or with his free time. You have no idea his relationship with his parents that is why your comments hold no stead. Maybe his father does share with him. Don't comment if you don't know. Do you live in a cave man? The kids you put down are in the minority.
You give no credit where credit is due because you have no idea. All schools wire wired now with the internet you fool and if they had it in my day I would have partaked. And by the way I played and coached all sports with my kids. I had 3 on one Little League team at once. We had a ball and we played pool. You know why you dolt(what the hell is a dolt), I assume it is derogatory so back at you. You know why, my business is a pool hall you moron and has been for 30 years so you stuck your foot in your mouth. We did it all together. So the statement stands I probably can kick your ass in pool and I never played in leagues in my life. Only for the cash. I do not need to set up anything. You put up them money if we ever meet and play. Period. By the way I have two sons that are also 0 handicap golfers. And one son that could also kick your ass in pool. So I guess they did not have any bringing up cause they were pool hall bums. ha ha ha.

The next time you respond to someone do not do it on assumption and speculation. The point is you cannot assume this kid is spending all his time on a forum.
WHAT THE HELL IS A DOLT AGAIN? MY EDUCATION DID NOT INCLUDE THAT WORD.
P.S. The only proven idiot is you and I will not lower myself.

Internet in school is a little bit different, at least when I had it in school. It was heavily monitored. I would have never been able to come look through a pool forum. A dolt is an idiot. I used to hear my father say it about some of the other factory workers when things got messed up.