I chose to do this kissed 8 and scratched. Should I have tried a 1 rail kick or, tried nudging 1 of his balls up against the 8.
Got yelled at for this one too.
Black Cat
I had several choices....... BUT!
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I chose to do this kissed 8 and scratched. Should I have tried a 1 rail kick or, tried nudging 1 of his balls up against the 8.
Got yelled at for this one too.
Black Cat
Very low chance of a scratch? Why complicate things? Just kick it in one rail.
The one rail kick would have brought you in at the 8 at a sharper angle and you would have had a lot less chance of scratching.
Black Cat: A one-rack kick here would have been a much higher percentage shot than the two-rail kick.
If your captain keeps yelling at you, perhaps you should consider joining another team.
If your captain keeps yelling at you, perhaps you should consider joining another team.
a quick system for 1 rail kicks is as shown on the wei table where (a) is the contact point, (b) is the point opposite of the contact point and (c) is the aim point. Hit with center spin with about a 5-6 out of 10 speed.
START(
%AP6Z2%BB8B4%CB7B8%DB5B8%EQ0X3%FB6C1%GB9B8%H[8Z7%IB5B6%JB6B8
%KC0C0%LC1B7%MB9B8%NB2B9%OB5C0%PM6Z6%Q[6X9%R[4D4%ST8B6%WM9D1
%XM4Z5%Y\0Y2%ZN1C3%[[9F3%\M5Y6%]U5D5%^U4N8
)END
START(
%AP6Z2%BB8B4%CB7B8%DB5B8%EQ0X3%FB6C1%GB9B8%H[8Z7%IB5B6%JB6B8
%KC0C0%LC1B7%MB9B8%NB2B9%OB5C0%PM6Z6%Q[6X9%R[4D4%ST8B6%WM9D1
%XM4Z5%Y\0Y2%ZN1C3%[[9F3%\M5Y6%]U5D5%^U4N8
)END
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Next time try this and you'll give your captian heart failure ( by the way this kick does work, its a Grady kick ) its a great kick - ive used it a few times when I was in jail. Depending on the table its center ball with a little right. Good luck START(
%AB6B1%BK4X6%CB5B5%DB6B4%EB9B5%FP7Z1%GB8B7%H[3Z7%IB6B4%JB9B5
%KC1B9%LB6B3%MC4B9%NB8B7%OB8C0%PG1X4%Us0G5%Vl0C6%WD3W5%XG6X4
%Yk2D0%ZC0V7%[]1Y6%\s4G9
)END
not sure if thats EXACTLY where the cue hits on the rails going to the 8 but you get the idea.
%AB6B1%BK4X6%CB5B5%DB6B4%EB9B5%FP7Z1%GB8B7%H[3Z7%IB6B4%JB9B5
%KC1B9%LB6B3%MC4B9%NB8B7%OB8C0%PG1X4%Us0G5%Vl0C6%WD3W5%XG6X4
%Yk2D0%ZC0V7%[]1Y6%\s4G9
)END
not sure if thats EXACTLY where the cue hits on the rails going to the 8 but you get the idea.
That one scares me what's the formula. I've been studying Banking with the Beard, & The Monks Banking and Kicking Systems Vol. 1 & 2. I've been doing pretty good with it coming along well I guess. But, the captain on my team tends to be very conservative, anytime I do something pushing the envelope he gets pissed.
Black Cat
Actually I would never shoot that kick for the shot you were going for ... greenman has the correct shot posted. I was just throwing out a kick for you to work on and try. Its great for rotation games
I'm actually familiar with that system I use it often. I got that one from Ray Martin's 99 critical shots in Pool. I'm an APA 6 tying to get better, all help is appreciated.
Black Cat
Black Cat
Black Cat 5791 said:
Practice the one rail kick. Hit it slow. Really slow. Most tables today will give approximately the "geometrically correct" angle in/angle out on a very slow shot, rolling cueball, no english.
Try it on different tables. You'll never pass on this shot again.
Got yelled at for this one too.
Black Cat
I hope you mean to say that your team captain vocally showed his disappointment. Or do you mean he sat there and berated you?
Fred
Cornerman said:
No he lambasted me pretty good.
I felt bad about it, but it was a hell of a kick. He thought I should have bumped the 2 by the 8 pushing the 8 off the pocket. Then making my opponent make the runout if they could.
Black Cat.
If I were his captain, and he tried bumping the 2 into the 8 I would have lambasted him for trying such an inept move.Black Cat 5791 said:No he lambasted me pretty good.
I felt bad about it, but it was a hell of a kick. He thought I should have bumped the 2 by the 8 pushing the 8 off the pocket. Then making my opponent make the runout if they could.
Black Cat.
Fred
Black Cat 5791 said:I chose to do this kissed 8 and scratched. Should I have tried a 1 rail kick or, tried nudging 1 of his balls up against the 8.
Got yelled at for this one too.
Black Cat
BC,
Too cool, you are a man after my own heart - going for the heroic shot every time (my excuse is I grew up in Arnold Palmer country - we go for everything, laying up is for wimps).
However, 1 rail is obviously a higher percentage shot than 2 rails. I doubt the risk of scratching is much different between the 1- and 2- rail kicks, but certainly not enough to warrant the 2-railer; it has a much lower chance of success. Just repeat after your coach, "one rail is better than two, one rail is better than two, etc."
As Satchel Paige said, "never run when you can walk, never walk when you can sit, never sit when you can lay down; and never look behind yourself, 'cause something might be gaining on you" (in your case it might be your coach with his meat cleaver).
From my point of view a captain should never yell at a team mate for thier shot selection. The shot you picked took some brass, that you scratched in the side showed that you were close.
I always trust my teammates shot selection(although I might ask them what they were thinking or trying to do), if I see something they should change or should work on, I mention it later. much later.
He needs to take a chill pill.
I always trust my teammates shot selection(although I might ask them what they were thinking or trying to do), if I see something they should change or should work on, I mention it later. much later.
He needs to take a chill pill.
Cornerman said:
Fred actually it was the 4 not the 2, I forgot which one was on the rail. Any difference?
Black Cat.
No difference. You'd be giving up ball in hand with two balls left on the table. You'd have to get extremely lucky, or execute extremely well to put the other player in any bad situation.Black Cat 5791 said:Fred actually it was the 4 not the 2, I forgot which one was on the rail. Any difference?
Black Cat.
If extremely lucky or executing extremely well are what you need, you might as well kick one rail across. It's an easier shot that requires less extreme luck or extremely good execution compared to nudging the 4-ball into the 8-ball.
Fred
supergreenman said:
Black Cat: Life's too short not to be having fun. Your team captian's berating you has to be taking its toll on you...so I hope someone in this thread can suggest a way for you to respond back to your team captian.
Hopefully, you are learning from your mistakes so that the next time you're in a similar situation, you'll do better.
Cornerman said:
I agree with Fred, the close proximity of the balls along with a free ball in hand would ensure there would be little problems for your opponent if you tried the nudge.
PoolSharkAllen said:Black Cat: Life's too short not to be having fun. Your team captian's berating you has to be taking its toll on you...so I hope someone in this thread can suggest a way for you to respond back to your team captian.
Hopefully, you are learning from your mistakes so that the next time you're in a similar situation, you'll do better.
You can't argue with success
