I have a new Sniper tip

renard

renard

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Ok, I have always just had cheaper tips put on. One time I went for a $10 tip that was lamenated (can't remember what the tip was) and didn't see a real difference to the Lepro's I normally used. So I thought the difference would be slight at most if I went with a more expensive tip.

So I had a Sniper put on and there is a marked difference. This tip is soft and plays that way on soft shots but has the feel of a hard tip on harder shots. I was spinning the ball effortlessly.

It just makes me wonder what it would be like to compare various expensive tips at once on a table with the same stick make. Cuemakers I believe would put on tips that bring out the best in thier sticks. On the other hand they might go cheap leaving that decision to the buyer.

The question is what tips go best with what sticks according to the stick makers? Is there recommendations out there or do we have to try one after the other?
 
renard said:
Ok, I have always just had cheaper tips put on. One time I went for a $10 tip that was lamenated (can't remember what the tip was) and didn't see a real difference to the Lepro's I normally used. So I thought the difference would be slight at most if I went with a more expensive tip.

So I had a Sniper put on and there is a marked difference. This tip is soft and plays that way on soft shots but has the feel of a hard tip on harder shots. I was spinning the ball effortlessly.

It just makes me wonder what it would be like to compare various expensive tips at once on a table with the same stick make. Cuemakers I believe would put on tips that bring out the best in thier sticks. On the other hand they might go cheap leaving that decision to the buyer.

The question is what tips go best with what sticks according to the stick makers? Is there recommendations out there or do we have to try one after the other?
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I think you have to pretty much just try one after the other. I know that unless otherwise specified, certain cuemakers that I know have 'default' tips. It is the standard tip they will apply should a specific tip not be requested. Keith Josey and Skip Weston will 'default' to a tested for hardness Triangle tip. Jacoby will 'default' to a LePro, Espiritu to a WB tip.

I request, as a rule, a tip upgrade to a Moori M...as that is a tip I am extremely comfortable shooting with. However, I think the next tip I get, I will give the Sniper a try, and see what all the ruckus is about. :D

Lisa
 
sniper is a step up over mori , i have a 70 $kaiser and had a sniper put on now it playes like a expensive cue ...
 
renard said:
Ok, I have always just had cheaper tips put on. One time I went for a $10 tip that was lamenated (can't remember what the tip was) and didn't see a real difference to the Lepro's I normally used. So I thought the difference would be slight at most if I went with a more expensive tip.

So I had a Sniper put on and there is a marked difference. This tip is soft and plays that way on soft shots but has the feel of a hard tip on harder shots. I was spinning the ball effortlessly.

It just makes me wonder what it would be like to compare various expensive tips at once on a table with the same stick make. Cuemakers I believe would put on tips that bring out the best in thier sticks. On the other hand they might go cheap leaving that decision to the buyer.

The question is what tips go best with what sticks according to the stick makers? Is there recommendations out there or do we have to try one after the other?
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Renard -

As you play with the Sniper for a while and get used to how it feels and what it will do, you will like it better and better.
 
I have to say, after 40 years of playing pool, the Sniper is the first tip for which I can state, unequivocally, it is the best tip I've ever used. On one hand I want to keep it a secret, yet on the other I can't seem to resist grabbing my friends, insisting they hit some shots with it, just for the sheer pleasure of watching their expressions after they do.

I've had my Sniper for over a month now. The first week I almost removed it. The hit was too spongy. But the way it grabbed the cueball was seductive and gave me pause. After a week, it spread a bit, and I reshaped it. Since then I've barely had to touch it.

About the worst thing I can say about the Sniper is it has encouraged me to get so far toward the edge of the cueball I've had to learn new squirt/throw compensation for spin I was never familiar with.

The fellow who started this thread said it plays like a hard tip on hard shots and a soft tip on soft shots. Sounds weird, I know, but that's exactly the way it plays. He nailed it.
 
CrownCityCorey said:
Just a correction, Jacoby's come with an Everest by Tiger :)
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Oops! My bad, Corey! That is what they USED to put on their cues...but it's been quite a while since I had one. Nice to see that they are using a little nicer tip these days.:)

Lisa
 
I have been wanting to try a sniper myself. Currently I prefer Moori Med and Le Pro tips. Not crazy about triangle or elkmaster. Based on this which sniper / everist tip should I try ?
 
I would say you would want to try the Sniper. The everest is the harder tip of the 2.

Merry Christmas.
 
ridewiththewind said:
I think you have to pretty much just try one after the other. I know that unless otherwise specified, certain cuemakers that I know have 'default' tips. It is the standard tip they will apply should a specific tip not be requested. Keith Josey and Skip Weston will 'default' to a tested for hardness Triangle tip. Jacoby will 'default' to a LePro, Espiritu to a WB tip.

I request, as a rule, a tip upgrade to a Moori M...as that is a tip I am extremely comfortable shooting with. However, I think the next tip I get, I will give the Sniper a try, and see what all the ruckus is about. :D

Lisa
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So your saying all cue makers have default tips. I wonder what those are? A list would be nice... but on the upgrade I'm guessing they will put most anything on? Right?

This tip indeed changes my perception...
 
tedkaufman said:
The first week I almost removed it. The hit was too spongy. But the way it grabbed the cueball was seductive and gave me pause.
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This was my exact experience when I first tried the sniper late last year. I'd always used hard tips, when I installed the Sniper it felt too spongy. I cut it off and immediately went back to the hard tips. I've since heard more about the Sniper and how it hardens up as it breaks in, especially if you cut it down some. Maybe I'll have to give it another try.:)
 
Klopek said:
This was my exact experience when I first tried the sniper late last year. I'd always used hard tips, when I installed the Sniper it felt too spongy. I cut it off and immediately went back to the hard tips. I've since heard more about the Sniper and how it hardens up as it breaks in, especially if you cut it down some. Maybe I'll have to give it another try.:)
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Yes, definitely try a Sniper again. I'm really glad I hesitated. I was minutes away from cutting it off, and if I had, I would never have known how good a tip it is.

Btw, I see no reason to cut down a Sniper. It's a fairly tall tip, but now that mine is sufficiently tempered, it's firm enough, yet still bites the cueball like crazy. Cutting it down will only lessen the use you'll get from one.
 
after having a moori mushroom on me I decided to try out the sniper, I hated the way it feels but I did win 5 tournaments with that tip, it just feels too soft for me, but it gets the job done, i might have to go back to one
 
There are several issues involved with any tip. They all seem to work pretty well at first but many lose their shape or get too hard over time.

I like both the Sniper and Everest. The Sniper has the feel of a Moori, maybe a little softer, but holds chalk better and stays consistent longer. My last Sniper went for a year before it became too hard for me, and I play a lot.

If the Sniper is too soft for you at first, it could be because you are used to playing with a fully hardened tip. Just give yourself time to adjust and give the tip time to break in too. You can also shave it down a little. It does need a few weeks break in to reach it's fully compressed feel.

I switched to Everest a week ago after discussing it with Corey Harper. His observation is the Everest is softer, grabs more (not always a good thing) and stays this way longer than a Sniper. I compare the action of an Everest with a broken-in Elkmaster, but you have a tip that will perform better than an Elkmaster over a very long time. When I was using Elkmasters I was changing tips every 2 - 3 months! Part of that was the break-in process shaves off a lot of leather.

Both Corey and I have switched back and forth between the Sniper and the Everest. I like the Everest on my cue now. It does get more action on the cueball so a little adjustment is needed but I like the feeling of being able to stroke the ball a little softer and still getting a lot of spin.

Of all aspects of a cue, in terms of performance, that little tip is probably the single most important thing. Tiger's construction process is really amazing - you should see the equipment and process they use to build the tips, it's quite impressive. Maybe Corey will let me show you a pic of their new press.

To me, for a manufacturer to be consistent from tip to tip is extremely important. This is where Tiger shines. I have not had a bad tip from them yet. Their tip building process makes everything very consistent.



Chris
 
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When I first started using layer'd tips, I was using a Moori med, and the first day or two it felt like a sponge. But it gripped everything so good.

I used Moori's for the next yr, and then went back to Triumph tips because I was sick of the moori tip glazing over so fast. I've used Triangle tips too, which are basically just as good as a Triumph.

When I got my cue from Brent Hartman, i had him put a Tiger Dynamite tip on, and the tip is by far the best layer'd tip I have used so far. I have yet to have the tip glaze over on me like the Moori's did.

Another good tip for the price was the Stingray tips, A local place that sold pool tables and equipment carried them and sold them for 8$. I generally used them on my break cue, and once they were broke in, they played great.
 
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