I have an Idea for a Pool Related Accessory

PoolSleuth

PoolSleuth

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But don’t know who to approach about making the Product, (as it could be made of Wood, or Plastic, or Injection Molded) or how to prevent my Idea from Being RIPPED OFF

I would like to possibly sell the idea, and maybe get a Royalty off of the Product.

Any Ideas? Would be appreciated...
 
Injection molding is the most cost effective of the ways you mentioned. Have the mold made, and you can crank out parts for years to come. Less time in the manufacturing process means more profit dollars on the bottom line.
Chuck
 
PoolSleuth said:
I don't want to build it, I want someone else to if it is good enough. Than get a Royalty. Thinking of Joe Porpor
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Selling ideas can be like pushing a rope. Protecting them costs money and doesn't always work, especially if the idea has value. If you're convinced of the ideas value then it's best to get busy, put your money in, make 'em and try to sell them, I say. Frankly ideas are worth very little when undeveloped.

Dave

PS Dr. Ray Dolby is one of my heros for many reasons, not least of which is the way he developed significant royalty income ... he developed and made the stuff first himself, btw.
 
I have quite a bit of experience developing prototypes and designing products for manufacturing. PM me if your interested.
 
I work with injection molds and build extrusion dies. TPE, TPV, EPDM, and other compounds. Although not likely to purchase your idea, I might be able to help with any molding questions.
 
I once worked in R&D

One man I knew had over eighty patents. He made money off of about three. Another man designed an industrial pump. He sold the US rights for four million. The Japanese told him they would give him 40K for the overseas rights or they would make it anyway and he could fight them in the Japanese courts, a waste of time and money.

If your idea is good you can spend five to ten thousand for each mold and get enough on the market using injection molding to discourage copycats.

The worst thing you can do is start off with a handful of proto-types. It pisses me off every time I see my design being sold because I trusted someone with a super reputation in that industry. Bottom line, get a patent but it is worth next to nothing unless you can ally yourself with a large company that will defend the patent as part of the contract. I will probably skip a patent in the future and concentrate on flooding the market when I have an idea.

Hu
 
The next "American Inventor" TV series!! Unless you got $25,000.00 to do research, design, and manufacture. Then watch it been stolen by other within months. Unless you going to be like the big corp. and sue all comers. If you got it an idea sale it outright or manufacture it yourself and become its slave for five yrs++++++++. Good Luck.
 
It will obviously depend on the size and shape of the part, but tooling (molds) are very expensive. Our molds cost about 30K each. We have about 400 of them.
 
Sleuth,

If it's something you truly believe in, why give someone else your hard earn profits? Have the thing made, send a prototype to China, have a bunch made up for pennies on the dollar, and start selling and promoting the item yourself. Why wait for someone to believe in you? Believe in yourself. If the product is truly a good product, and a good value, it will sell itself. Not billiard items, but in my profession, if we get an order or a large quantity of an item, we can get 100 made in Taiwan and then promote and sell them, usually at large profit margins. Does not happen every day, but nice when it does.
 
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PoolSleuth said:


But don’t know who to approach about making the Product, (as it could be made of Wood, or Plastic, or Injection Molded) or how to prevent my Idea from Being RIPPED OFF

I would like to possibly sell the idea, and maybe get a Royalty off of the Product.

Any Ideas? Would be appreciated...
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Pointing you in the right direction would require a bit of information. You can PM me, if you trust me, and I'll try to point you the right direction.

Fred
 
I have an idea to modify/improve ceiling fans. I really think the idea will catch on and do good. I called Invention Submission Corporation, but the nearest office is several hours away. I never followed through with it. It seems really simple, but I've never seen one anywhere.
 
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You might want to talk with Joe Tucker... he is an avid Inventor, Pro Pool Player & Instructor. He is also a man of integrity & he can help you find a way to start your ball rolling.
 
Hal said:
I have an idea to modify/improve ceiling fans. I really think the idea will catch on and do good. I called Invention Submission Corporation, but the nearest office is several hours away. I never followed through with it. It seems really simple, but I've never seen one anywhere.
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Be very careful of using these types of organizations. They charge large fees to help "develop" your ideas. They are also known to steal ideas.
 
metal5d said:
Be very careful of using these types of organizations. They charge large fees to help "develop" your ideas. They are also known to steal ideas.
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YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!! By the end of that deal they'll end up owning anything you came up with and you'll get nothing..

If anybody on here has a legit idea and need some help to make it a reality I'd be more then happy to help. I do "rapid prototyping" and am only interested in the prototype work. I can help you get sorted via sending you a pretty standard "NON DISCLOSURE" so that you can share your ideas with others.. It pretty much states that if they come out with anything of similar technology in "X" amount of time then you can sue the pants off of them. I can put you in touch with a million engineering firms / industrial design firms that can design it for you if your not able, Prototype it via CNC machining, RTV Molding, Rapid prototyping processes, and then get you hooked up either domestic or overseas for production in a variety of different processes.

I'm reluctant to post the company info I work for on some thread on the internet, but if anybody needs help with this kind of stuff DO NOT CALL ONE OF THOSE INVENTORS ARE US kind of places, you WILL get screwed.

some various shops that do prototype work, and can help with the same things I can..

www.solidconcepts.com

www.scicontech.com

etc...

Or if you want to just ask some questions about these kind of things feel free to give a call

Dave Johnson - 949 - 678 - 8369
 
PoolSleuth said:


But don’t know who to approach about making the Product, (as it could be made of Wood, or Plastic, or Injection Molded) or how to prevent my Idea from Being RIPPED OFF

I would like to possibly sell the idea, and maybe get a Royalty off of the Product.

Any Ideas? Would be appreciated...
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I've mentioned it in the past.

Write down your idea; explaining the how, what, where, when, and whos of it's purpose. Seal it in an envelope, and send it "Certified Mail" to yourself. Do Not Open it.

That's your ticket and ownership of your idea. It's one way of protecting your idea before anyone else can get their greedy hands on it. You'll have to trust the sytem though. Send your originals in that package. You and I both know how far forensics have come.

If you get up the "gumpshin" to do it on your own, and some ass tries to horn in on your pie, you'll have proof who came up with it first when it gets to the court's level.

And, what ever you do, research first. Click Here
 
Ronoh said:
I've mentioned it in the past.

Write down your idea; explaining the how, what, where, when, and whos of it's purpose. Seal it in an envelope, and send it "Certified Mail" to yourself. Do Not Open it.

That's your ticket and ownership of your idea. It's one way of protecting your idea before anyone else can get their greedy hands on it. You'll have to trust the sytem though. Send your originals in that package. You and I both know how far forensics have come.

If you get up the "gumpshin" to do it on your own, and some ass tries to horn in on your pie, you'll have proof who came up with it first when it gets to the court's level.

And, what ever you do, research first. Click Here
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Wow, good suggestion for documentation. I had a recent experience where one dingle-berry pseudo-cuemaker made model series with my initials and stated that he registered them as trademarks. Also hinting on a threat to come after me if he wishes to do so. Unfortunately for him I know his history and thus positive that he can't prove that he was first to use such in this industry. Unlike myself, trade brand product models and series have been published in industry magazines since 1999 aside from having products registered in the IPO under Utility Model Patents which clearly shows my name as registered owner of the items displaying clearly the ER designation.

I've read on copyright laws that once a product design has been displayed publicly and most specially in printed materials that the Patent Office recognizes this as proof of who the rightful owner is.

I'd say that do RONOH's advice about mailing the documents describing your invention and also talk to Fred and Plynsets. They may know a lot more about this since they're in the manufacturing ind.
 
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Hal said:
I have an idea to modify/improve ceiling fans. I really think the idea will catch on and do good. I called Invention Submission Corporation, but the nearest office is several hours away. I never followed through with it. It seems really simple, but I've never seen one anywhere.
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Cool...get it?---cool? :D

A fan of Hal's,

Jeff Livingston
 
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