I need help!!!

8-ball Rat said:
He tried it with me, too. Said the cue was supposed to be for some kind of charity event...and that he and 2 or 3 of his friends were going to pay me for the cue (payment amounts to be split up amongst them all). Sounded WAY wrong to me...so I didn't even consider it.

I'm sorry to hear that this happened...and hope that it's just some kind of awful misunderstanding.

My best to ya. Hope it works out, and sincerely hope you either get your cue back or all the money you sold it for.

Mark
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Ditto
red flags city on this guy
1. No itrader
2. New user
3. Wanted cue shipped Express to Hong Kong
4. Wanted to pay with 3 separate paypal accounts (why couldn't your friends just give him the money and use one account?)
5. Accounts were unconfirmed all three!

I just stopped talking to him.
 
Bamacues said:
If anyone has on-going transactions to Hong Kong, try to put a stop on the shipments ASAP!!

See: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=113035

Well, as anticipated, I have just been hit by the claims of unauthorized transactions by Yuri_b17, aka, Tim_hong.

I now understand how he does it. First, he pays a nominal amount out of his real account. The rest, he pays out of another account. Then, he iniates a claim with Paypal on the small clain. I can prove that I shipped the cue to him on it, but he only paid $16 through that account.

Next, after he files that claim and is possibly denied on it, he files the second claim on the item, which he paid from the second account, in this case, $249.

Since the first claim will have been iniated and possibly satisfied, then I can't prove to Paypal that a shipment went to that address.

It is a real shame, but I will at least file a claim with the Hong Kong cyber crime unit. Fortunately, my daughter-in-law is from Hong Kong, and her father will help me with it. I may never receive my money back, but at least I can make the authorities aware of the on-going crime.

Everyone, please beware. No more "Mr. Nice-guy".

Joe
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Have to say Joe I'm surprised a guy with your experience in selling cues let this get by you. This guy had RED FLAGS everywhere.

1. No itrader
2. New user
3. Wanted cue shipped Express to Hong Kong
4. Wanted to pay with 3 separate paypal accounts (why couldn't his friends just give him the money and use one account?)
5. Accounts were unconfirmed.

Good luck Joe.

By the way this guy is in a raffle for a carmeli cue. Lets see if he pays.
 
patrickjuhlin said:
With a charge back and Paypal are you forced to give back the payment, is there any type of insurence for this?
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If it''s still in account they will take it or hold it until dispute is finalized but the scammer seems to win every time with Paypal.

If it's already in your bank they will demand it back and if you don't' pay they will start collection efforts.

At least that is what happened when I son got ripped off.
 
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Pii said:
Have to say Joe I'm surprised a guy with your experience in selling cues let this get by you. This guy had RED FLAGS everywhere.

1. No itrader
2. New user
3. Wanted cue shipped Express to Hong Kong
4. Wanted to pay with 3 separate paypal accounts (why couldn't his friends just give him the money and use one account?)
5. Accounts were unconfirmed.

Good luck Joe.

By the way this guy is in a raffle for a carmeli cue. Lets see if he pays.
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Bill,

You are correct. I did recognize the red flags and felt that it was going to go south on me, but I figured I would give it a shot. It was a low-end cue, so the impact is minimal. I would not have done it with a higher end item.

I also realize that it is not Hong Kong that is at fault here. A criminal can come from anywhere. It just makes it more difficult to do anything about the issue. I have not been to Hong Kong in quite a while, but I had some good times there.

Joe
 
Here is the latest from Paypal
Recently, PayPal received a notification from a user regarding unauthorized access to his PayPal account. As a result, one of the payments credited to your PayPal account has been placed in a temporary hold while we investigate the claim. PayPal constantly monitors transactions for unauthorized use of accounts in order to maintain the safety of our users.

The details of this transaction are as follows:


Transaction Date: Sep. 3, 2008
Transaction Amount: $30.00 USD
Buyer's Email: yuri_b17@yahoo.com


If you have already shipped goods related to this transaction, you may be covered under PayPal's Seller Protection Policy. Please provide PayPal with the following information:

1) Tracking Number of Shipment
2) Shipping Company Used
3) Shipping Insurance Information (if used)

If you have provided a refund to the buyer, please provide PayPal with the following information:

1) Date of Refund
2) Amount of Refund

For you to be protected by our Seller Protection Policy, you must reply to this email. We need to receive all correspondence regarding this case within 7 days. If you have any questions, please reply to this email.

Good selling practices, like trackable shipping, prompt shipment, and communication between buyer and seller help prevent disputes.

Sincerely,
PayPal
 
An unauthorized account activity claim was recently filed against the
following transaction:


Buyer's Name: Bayanin Yuri
Buyer's Email: yuri_b17@yahoo.com
Buyer's Transaction ID: 965859436M847945S

Transaction Date: Sep 3, 2008
Transaction Amount: -$30.00 USD
Your Transaction ID: 7YT16875RD919392G
Case Number: PP-544-439-462

Seller's Transaction ID: 7YT16875RD919392G



To complete our investigation, you must provide additional information
within the next seven days. Please log in to your PayPal account at
https://www.paypal.com and go to the Resolution Center to view the details
of this case. You will have the opportunity to enter any details or
information regarding this case which will help PayPal investigate the
matter fully.

Thanks for your cooperation through this process. We are continuing to work
to ensure that PayPal is secure for all users.

Sincerely,

PayPal
Account Review Department

Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you
will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account
and click the Help link in the top right corner of any PayPal page.
 
If you look at this carfully you will find that a Yuri is using Paypal also, I have put together that the guy that owns the account for the $30 portion of the payment is the crook. He initialy put 245 dollars in my paypal account from the hacked user name Lim ALex and then I said that wasnt enough and he then I beleive charged $30 from his own accoutn and is now claiming that charge was Unauthorized. I am starting to get the scam.
 
Yuri and Tim Hong

How are these two thieves not banned ? We see peeps get banned for spouting off, but these two are ripping off our fellow AZers and they remain active users..

Mr Wilson, I implore you.. Banish them.

Jay Jensen
 
JJsooted said:
How are these two thieves not banned ? We see peeps get banned for spouting off, but these two are ripping off our fellow AZers and they remain active users..

Mr Wilson, I implore you.. Banish them.

Jay Jensen
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get out the banstick and sock it to these scammers!!

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