I need to Vent.

Great post Rich! :thumbup:

Scott Lee
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I play in two straight pool leagues and it's considered bad form to carry on a conversation while your opponent is at the table. However, sometimes a guy comes up to you while you're in the chair and starts talking, asks a question or whatever, and you don't want to be rude to him. You just speak softly and try not to prolong the conversation. Some people are more sensitive to talking than others. I can honestly say that it doesn't bother me, within reason anyway.

My advice is to be determined not let it bother you. In fact, think to yourself .... here's a bigger audience to impress with my sterling play. Slow down a bit and focus hard on playing well.

And I'm quite sure your opponent wasn't trying to shark you. These things happen. Calm yourself and have fun.
 
If I have anything to say to anyone during league night, I wait until the match is over. Just because you're not at the table doesn't mean you are not focusing on the game at hand.

Nothing can be that important unless there is a rattle snake under the guys chair. In which case, I would interrupt the game to mention it. From a distance of course.
 
Another great post! tank69...I'm just like you. NOTHING bothers me. You could march a brass band right in front of me, while I'm shooting, and it wouldn't bother me one bit. But that's learned behavior, that I learned 30 years ago. That said, there's a lot to be said about being polite too.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

That's life. If you were truly focused on what's going on at the table and playing your game, you wouldn't notice talking, or anything else for that matter. When I'm playing and focused, I don't notice the music blaring, the people talking or other things going on around me. If I start talking, I'm not focusing...plain and simple. If I'm playing bad, I lose focus and then I start noticing little things and then I let it bother me...not because "whatever it is" that is bothering me, it's because I'm letting it bother me....I'm not focused on my game and/or my time at the table. Learn to focus better and making excuses about something happening when your on the table is just you making excuses for bad play and lack of focus.


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TheNewSharkster...Unfortunately one of the two was already in the middle of a league match. A few words is one thing...an extended conversation, lasting who knows how long (but at least several minutes) is rude, and at least politically incorrect during match play...especially since Fenwick had defined how he'd like see the match played beforehand (sit and be quiet, when it's not your turn).

Scott Lee
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Scott I respect your opinion but I do not agree. Whether it be a long conversation or a short one shouldn't matter as long as he is at the table when its his turn. I will say I feel like I am missing part of the puzzle. I just don't understand the big deal. People will talk during pool league. Just play your game.
 
Ok, how about this. Both players discuss and agree to play by a certain set of rules, which happen to include etiquette. They play that way, until someone comes up, mid-match, to one of the players and begins a conversation that lasts a long time, and includes the offending player taking a few turns at the table, while still talking to the nonplayer. That is rude, imo, as they had agreed to play a certain way. If there was no prior agreement or discussion, I'd be in your court. In the end, I agree that you must learn to block out all distractions...intentional or otherwise.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Scott I respect your opinion but I do not agree. Whether it be a long conversation or a short one shouldn't matter as long as he is at the table when its his turn. I will say I feel like I am missing part of the puzzle. I just don't understand the big deal. People will talk during pool league. Just play your game.
 
Ok, how about this. Both players discuss and agree to play by a certain set of rules, which happen to include etiquette. They play that way, until someone comes up, mid-match, to one of the players and begins a conversation that lasts a long time, and includes the offending player taking a few turns at the table, while still talking to the nonplayer. That is rude, imo, as they had agreed to play a certain way. If there was no prior agreement or discussion, I'd be in your court. In the end, I agree that you must learn to block out all distractions...intentional or otherwise.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com



I didn't realize they had a agreement in place concerning etiquette. If that is the case I agree.
 
At the risk of dragging this out here's what I said.

When the game starts I'll be in my chair while your at the table. Don't think I'm being rude. I just want to play and not interrupt when your at the table. I took it upon myself to sit still and be quiet.

My first question was, "To the point. Am I a A$$ Hole for expecting my opponent to keep quiet and take the chair?"
I guess expecting was a pipe dream. I should have said, An I a A$$ Hole for wanting to ring the neck of a sharker, (Figuratively), who pretends to be a friend of my opponent? He only plays pool with him because he can win. He and I don't play pool anymore. See below.


At no time ask him to sit still. I never asked him not to talk to me. I never said he couldn't talk to anyone else.

So the non player showed up, pulled up a chair and sat down 5 or 6 feet from the corner pocket. He had no business there IMO and he has a booming deep voice. They both work in the same field. They talked shop. In my eye and in my ear.
The non player knows he has less luck getting in my ear as I'm hearing impaired.

In the past he the non player pulled these moves.
If I'm shooting in the rack he moves a chair to the bottom of the table. Corner to corner to corner. Then to the top, corner to corner to corner. Get the picture.

My version of what took place. I won both games but the second was lopsided in my favor.
 
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You could ask them, in no uncertain terms, to keep it quiet. This is one of the biggest reasons I have refused to play in leagues. Are leagues supposed to be a night out, having no respect for the game or the people who play it? Not where I learned to play! For me, leagues are just one short step removed from tournament play. If you can't take it seriously, join apa. If that sounds like a slam, too bad. And people wonder why the game is dying in this country. For me, fun is taking the game seriously enough to respect my opponent when he's at the table. If you can't do that, one of us had better quit.

Hitting the nail on the head!
 
I agree with the folks who say, "chill and enjoy."
But after you kicked his ass, I might have said, "NICE TRY ASSHOLE, NOW, F'OFF"

:grin:
 
Like I said rude, intentional sharking that's what the OP was saying.
Usually people who don't play very good like to take the side of the argument that anyone who gives respect and expects respect, someone who is trying to get better is just an a-h*le and a drag. Because it bothers them that someone is actually trying (putting in a effort) to get better and they are not, they are jealous and insecure so they try ridicule them.
 
I stand corrected, itsfroze! I misunderstood what happened. I agree with your post, in many ways.

Ken...Glad to hear you won both games! Keep up the good work (and don't let the assholes get to ya :D)! :thumbup:

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Like I said rude, intentional sharking that's what the OP was saying.
Usually people who don't play very good like to take the side of the argument that anyone who gives respect and expects respect, someone who is trying to get better is just an a-h*le and a drag. Because it bothers them that someone is actually trying (putting in a effort) to get better and they are not, they are jealous and insecure so they try ridicule them.
 
why do people playing in tournaments think they own the pool halls, if you want silence buy you're own pool table, and run you're own tournament. otherwise deal with the fact that you dont live in a bubble. every sport has trash talking to an extent, you think your all a bunch of athletes deal with some outside pressure. im sick of going out to shoot with friends, and feeling like i have to tip toe around some a-holes playing in a tournament on the next table, for the grand prize of two hundred dollars, and a cheap peace of gold tinted plastic.

Not much of a pool player, huh? I'll tell you what won't happen if you play next to me: I won't intentionally get in your vision when you get down on a shot, I won't bump into you without looking, I won't hi-five anyone and whoop when my opponent misses, I won't scream like a girl when the sports team on tv scores, I won't play next to you if another table is available if I'm playing for money or teaching, I won't set a beer on your table or mine, not even in a pocket, I won't take chalk from your table, I won't pick up your personal cue or even the house cue you're playing with and play with it. All that has been done to me, by people like you.
 
ok, but....

Not much of a pool player, huh? I'll tell you what won't happen if you play next to me: I won't intentionally get in your vision when you get down on a shot, I won't bump into you without looking, I won't hi-five anyone and whoop when my opponent misses, I won't scream like a girl when the sports team on tv scores, I won't play next to you if another table is available if I'm playing for money or teaching, I won't set a beer on your table or mine, not even in a pocket, I won't take chalk from your table, I won't pick up your personal cue or even the house cue you're playing with and play with it. All that has been done to me, by people like you.

But will you talk to your colleague with the loud booming voice while I am playing ?
 
Not much of a pool player, huh? I'll tell you what won't happen if you play next to me: I won't intentionally get in your vision when you get down on a shot, I won't bump into you without looking, I won't hi-five anyone and whoop when my opponent misses, I won't scream like a girl when the sports team on tv scores, I won't play next to you if another table is available if I'm playing for money or teaching, I won't set a beer on your table or mine, not even in a pocket, I won't take chalk from your table, I won't pick up your personal cue or even the house cue you're playing with and play with it. All that has been done to me, by people like you.

Enjoyed and agree with your post. One thing I will add though is:

And I won't take it from anybody else. Thanks

Thank you also to Scott Lee
 
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