I was called a "CHEATING JERK"

Hello fellow AZers,

Please let me know if I am at fault here:

Awhile back, I posted a Mezz cue in the 'for sale' page on AZ. The cue did not sell for a long time. A couple weeks pass and I am in need of cash to pay for bills, so I decided to put the cue in a temporary fire sale. I lowered the price from 1499$ to 1299$.

Another couple weeks pass and I still did not get any interests in the cue and I have already paid off the bills. I did not delete the thread because I have already forgotten about it. Last night a guy messages me asking, "What is your best price on the Mezz cue please? Thanks".

Knowing he must of saw my thread, I updated the price on the OLD thread (that I have long forgotten about) to avoid any confusion with future buyers. I told him my best price would be $1499. The person then writes, "What a hack ! You had a price of $ 1299. You remove that price and go back to 1499 cause someone expresses an interest in your cue? Wait till AZers hear about you. What a cheating SOB !!! JERK !!!"

Do we as sellers not have a right to ask whatever selling price we want?The buyer sent me a private message on an OLD thread. If later down the road I decide I don't want to sell the cue that low, do I really need to be called a "cheating SOB and a jerk"?

Let me know if I am at fault here fellow AZers. Thanks for your time and replies to this thread. I hope we can keep the discussion here positive.

Meh, **** that guy.
 
Yeah you were wrong to do it. You say you knew he must have seen the fire-sale price, so you go change it? Yeah you are wrong and underhanded.
 
I could see how there can be some confusion here. Although plenty come here for business, the forum software isn't exactly ideal for selling stuff. If you were a business and you bumped your prices because someone wanted to buy something, I could understand a negative reaction. That said, it must be very difficult to manage threads you posted weeks or months ago that may no longer apply. There's no expiration date.

In the end, you're not obligated to do business with anyone, even if they're offering you the asking price. I would just try and make a point to remain polite, explain your side of the story and remind him that if he doesn't agree, he's welcome to take his business elsewhere.
 
Yeah you were wrong to do it. You say you knew he must have seen the fire-sale price, so you go change it? Yeah you are wrong and underhanded.

I updated the price to avoid confusion with future buyers. Furthermore I explained to him what happened.
 
You can sell anything for any price you want. Either someone will buy it at that price or not. He obviously knew you had it for $1299 and was trying to play you, hoping you would be lower than the $1299. Then he gets made when you play him. Buyers can be devious too.
 
While I agree you have the right to ask whatever you want for your cue, I would never have gone back and changed the lower price to the higher when I realized this person was asking and had obviously seen the lower price. If you have an item listed for a price then it seems you have at least an implicit obligation to sell for that price (or less). What you did does seem a little shady to me based on the timeline of events you provided.
 
Hello fellow AZers,

Please let me know if I am at fault here:

Awhile back, I posted a Mezz cue in the 'for sale' page on AZ. The cue did not sell for a long time. A couple weeks pass and I am in need of cash to pay for bills, so I decided to put the cue in a temporary fire sale. I lowered the price from 1499$ to 1299$.

Another couple weeks pass and I still did not get any interests in the cue and I have already paid off the bills. I did not delete the thread because I have already forgotten about it. Last night a guy messages me asking, "What is your best price on the Mezz cue please? Thanks".

Knowing he must of saw my thread, I updated the price on the OLD thread (that I have long forgotten about) to avoid any confusion with future buyers. I told him my best price would be $1499. The person then writes, "What a hack ! You had a price of $ 1299. You remove that price and go back to 1499 cause someone expresses an interest in your cue? Wait till AZers hear about you. What a cheating SOB !!! JERK !!!"

Do we as sellers not have a right to ask whatever selling price we want?The buyer sent me a private message on an OLD thread. If later down the road I decide I don't want to sell the cue that low, do I really need to be called a "cheating SOB and a jerk"?

Let me know if I am at fault here fellow AZers. Thanks for your time and replies to this thread. I hope we can keep the discussion here positive.

I think because you had 1299 price you should have honored that :eek:
 
You can sell anything for any price you want. Either someone will buy it at that price or not. He obviously knew you had it for $1299 and was trying to play you, hoping you would be lower than the $1299. Then he gets made when you play him. Buyers can be devious too.

Let me amend the above. If you had it listed and posted at the lower price when the buyer contacted you then you are obligated to sell it at the lower price. But he was still playing you especially if he new what price it was listed for.
 
You ask for my opinion, I'll give it. Once you posted it at the lower price you shouldn't be surprised if you then ask for more but even at the lower price that is far too much for a Chinese production cue.
 
Thanks for the replies guys. I just feel there was no need to call me a "cheating SOB jerk". Most of us are adults here, there isn't a need to be calling each other names like we are in elementary school.
 
You ask for my opinion, I'll give it. Once you posted it at the lower price you shouldn't be surprised if you then ask for more but even at the lower price that is far too much for a Chinese production cue.

Mezz cues are made in Japan :]
 
Let me amend the above. If you had it listed and posted at the lower price when the buyer contacted you then you are obligated to sell it at the lower price. But he was still playing you especially if he new what price it was listed for.


Most of us do not run a business or a retail store. I don't think we as sellers have an "obligation". We are simple pool players who enjoy the game. If someone listed something and later down the road decide its not for sale, I don't think they are obligated to sell.
 
Most of us do not run a business or a retail store. I don't think we as sellers have an "obligation". We are simple pool players who enjoy the game. If someone listed something and later down the road decide its not for sale, I don't think they are obligated to sell.

Of course you have an obligation.

Why do you think that you shouldn't be accountable?

Your actions are your responsibility.
 
Most of us do not run a business or a retail store. I don't think we as sellers have an "obligation". We are simple pool players who enjoy the game. If someone listed something and later down the road decide its not for sale, I don't think they are obligated to sell.

Was the cue listed at the time the buyer contacted you? If so, you are obligated to sell at the price listed. Otherwise the for sale section would be a mockery and not selling it if it is listed does make you a jerk. If you pulled it, not listed, at the time of the buyers inquiry then you can do whatever you want.
 
Most of us do not run a business or a retail store. I don't think we as sellers have an "obligation". We are simple pool players who enjoy the game. If someone listed something and later down the road decide its not for sale, I don't think they are obligated to sell.

Deciding something isn't for sale and changing a price are two different things.
Were you a "cheating jerk" ? No, but you were caught out there with a posted price.
Retail store or not, there are some generally accepted behaviors on both sides of any transaction. The buyer probably wasn't real at $1299 anyway. If he was, likely there would have been some attempt at negotiation.
 
Most of us do not run a business or a retail store. I don't think we as sellers have an "obligation". We are simple pool players who enjoy the game. If someone listed something and later down the road decide its not for sale, I don't think they are obligated to sell.

Well, if you had forgotten about the thread and had decided to keep the cue instead, then it would be fine you to reply to the perspective buyer that the cue is no longer for sale, and that it was an old listing. You should then remove the listing, or at least update it to show that the cue is no longer available.

The place where you run into trouble is when you change things because someone has shown some interest.

I think he has reason to be upset. He saw a cue listed for sale and wanted to buy it. He started the price negotiation and then you upped the asking price. I would be upset too.

As for the name calling thing, it's unfortunate, but it does happen. What I recommend is that you don't let things that others do offend you so deeply. If someone resorts to poor behavior, then they are the ones acting and feeling poorly. You certainly don't have to follow suit. Let it roll off and move on.


Royce
 
Unfortunate set of events. The move of changing the price quickly could be considered underhanded, but yelling at a seller over a sale that won't be happening is lame as well. You're not a cheating SOB, keep your head up. You didn't shake on a deal, therefore nothing is needed to be fulfilled. You had a faulty price listed, and it took a buyer to realize it. The buyer hasn't been waiting on this cue for months at an agreed upon price. The buyer walked up and saw a sale which was actually a mistake. Buyer is a jerk who should be refused service at most restaurants.
 
Well, if you had forgotten about the thread and had decided to keep the cue instead, then it would be fine you to reply to the perspective buyer that the cue is no longer for sale, and that it was an old listing. You should then remove the listing, or at least update it to show that the cue is no longer available.

The place where you run into trouble is when you change things because someone has shown some interest.

I think he has reason to be upset. He saw a cue listed for sale and wanted to buy it. He started the price negotiation and then you upped the asking price. I would be upset too.

As for the name calling thing, it's unfortunate, but it does happen. What I recommend is that you don't let things that others do offend you so deeply. If someone resorts to poor behavior, then they are the ones acting and feeling poorly. You certainly don't have to follow suit. Let it roll off and move on.


Royce


Thanks for the reply Royce, I really appreciate it. It seems I am at fault here guys, thanks for all your opinions. Lets move on as Royce said.
 
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