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BLACKHEARTCUES

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Arnot recently said what I have felt all along. That posters HERE should identify themselves. We as cuemakers are naked, in the fact that we identify ourselves as individuals & as craftsman. Whereas any yahoo can post derogatory remarks that can cast negative coments upon our character or our business at will, with no identity or reprocutions as to their alligations. I think that this forum is called "ask the cuemakers" & without the CUEMAKERS you have nothing. I think that until there is identity of posters, then NO CUE MAKER SHOULD POST HERE...JER
 
Identify

tap..tap..tap!

So easy for one to make negative post about a cuebuilder,
while hiding behind a computer!

I think one should have private communications with that
cuebuilder, before any public negative posting!

I love this section of az billiards!!!

I do not want it to go down the tubes!


John Saxman
127 October Drive
State College, PA 16801
814-238-8912
(cue assembler wantabe)



I will allways be grateful & appreciative of ALL of the cuebuilders that post here!

Lots of great information & discussion.

later,
sax
 
Good luck. The Internet is what it is. You either learn to deal with it or make a fool of yourself trying in vain to make it something it's not.
 
It will never be an equal playing field, so to speak, Sheldon is correct, it is what it is and as much as your point is valid, I don't think it's suppose to be fair. Best option is to pick and choose how and what you post to. Anyone can ask any question they wish but if for some reason, you don't like how they ask or if they choose not to sign their post, Don't answer.
 
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I have to agree on this one. Most of cuemakers identify themselves but some don't. It would be nice to know who is the cuemaker putting their opinions and advice.
 
So Be It! Surender To This Beast Or Don't Post. That's What I'm Proposing . Not Many Will Miss Me, But If All Cuemakers Stop Posting, Then The Moderator Will Require That All Posters , At Least Register The Minimum Info...jer
 
I wouldn't worry either way ... We know ourselves ... It isn't going to bring us any bad luck ... the cream always rises to the top and the rest , well , gets flushed ... it's like a karma thing ... don't worry ... be happy :eek:
 
Sheldon said:
Good luck. The Internet is what it is. You either learn to deal with it or make a fool of yourself trying in vain to make it something it's not.
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There are other forums now, that are changing over to a system, where you have to use your real names.Both 1st and Last. In the case of a a similar name like John Smith, an initial is required,until all are taken and then a numerical number is added to the end. So it could be
John C Smith23.
They did this because of problems with anonymous posters.
So if you don't re register with your real details, you can not post at all.
I think it is a great Idea and would be easy to adopt here. Most cue makers mention their real names at the bottom of most of their post's anyway.

Neil Lickfold
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
Arnot recently said what I have felt all along. That posters HERE should identify themselves. We as cuemakers are naked, in the fact that we identify ourselves as individuals & as craftsman. Whereas any yahoo can post derogatory remarks that can cast negative coments upon our character or our business at will, with no identity or reprocutions as to their alligations. I think that this forum is called "ask the cuemakers" & without the CUEMAKERS you have nothing. I think that until there is identity of posters, then NO CUE MAKER SHOULD POST HERE...JER
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I have been fighting this problem for years to no avail.

There are many cuemakers here who don't want anyone to be able to trace their comments back home or else they would put their contact information.

I have always thought it common sense to put your contact information so potential customers can get in touch with you. When I saw that so many other cuemakers give up this valuable tool I realized that they just did not want to take responsibility for their comments. They do not want the general public to identify them.

It also helps that when you don't know what your talking about to do it anonymously.

Thanks for posting.
 
Michael Webb said:
It will never be an equal playing field, so to speak, Sheldon is correct, it is what it is and as much as your point is valid, I don't think it's suppose to be fair. Best option is to pick and choose how and what you post to. Anyone can ask any question they wish but if for some reason, you don't like how they ask or if they choose not to sign their post, Don't answer.
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Maybe we could take it one step further. When an unsigned post is made reply with the following:

"I have elected not to contribute to this question until I know who I am speaking to. If you met me personally, called me on the phone or knocked on my door you would identify yourself. Give me the same courtesy I have shown you and I will continue this discussion."
 
I don't read much on the boards other than this section. I use this section to get help, give help and see other cue makers opinions on how to do things.

Most of the cue makers post using their real names. There are a few anonymous posters who post valuable information. There are others that post nothing of value at all and there are others who are too big of cowards to use their real name because they have spent the past several years ducking people they have ripped off in one way or another.

I've learned over the last couple of years, who's posts to read and who's to ignore.

I know this has been mentioned before, but we could always start cuemaker only forum someplace else. A lot of us have hosting space. It wouldn't take much to set something like this up.
 
I can set up a forum if you guys want one.

Also, I believe the guys here at AZ could probably create a private forum specifically for cue makers - that way you keep the same account and everything.
 
I could be wrong but I don't think Blackhearts post was aimed directly at the Cue makers. It's getting fun already. :D
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
Arnot recently said what I have felt all along. That posters HERE should identify themselves. We as cuemakers are naked, in the fact that we identify ourselves as individuals & as craftsman. Whereas any yahoo can post derogatory remarks that can cast negative coments upon our character or our business at will, with no identity or reprocutions as to their alligations. I think that this forum is called "ask the cuemakers" & without the CUEMAKERS you have nothing. I think that until there is identity of posters, then NO CUE MAKER SHOULD POST HERE...JER
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I don't post here as often as many but on occasion I do post. I do read the section on a daily basis. The minute it starts getting nasty, I refuse to post and add to the mess. I agree that everyone should be identified. The majority of Cue Makers are and so should the people asking questions.
 
Arnot Wadsworth said:
"If you met me personally, called me on the phone or knocked on my door you would identify yourself."
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If someone met you personally, called you on the phone, or knocked on your door the whole world would not be listening or have the ability to search out and recall your conversation at any time in the future.

Dave Keith
 
DaveK said:
If someone met you personally, called you on the phone, or knocked on your door the whole world would not be listening or have the ability to search out and recall your conversation at any time in the future.

Dave Keith
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Thanks for signing your name.
 
Arnot Wadsworth said:
Thanks for signing your name.
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No problem, I hope.

As far as your posting that comment as a reply to every post that you consider anonymous, I'll suggest you consider the following :

"You'll never reach your destination if you stop to throw stones at every dog that barks." Sir Winston Churchill

Dave
 
DaveK said:
No problem, I hope.

As far as your posting that comment as a reply to every post that you consider anonymous, I'll suggest you consider the following :

"You'll never reach your destination if you stop to throw stones at every dog that barks." Sir Winston Churchill

Dave
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You know Dave, I am not the one asking for information here. If I do ask for help I am always sure to identify my self. Down here in Florida its just common courtesy.

I am just tired of some people taking shots at other people when they have nothing to lose.

The new price for information here is your name, address and phone number.

Good Day
 
I'm confused!?!?!?!

You can't stop someone from posting negative comments. Even if their comments are blantently untrue, good luck in doing anything about it. Are you going to hire a lawyer and sue them? Are you going over to their house and punch them in the nose?

So, what difference does it make if you know their name? OK, you get people to include their name in a post, what's to say it's their REAL name. All-in-all I don't see the point:confused:

I believe that this forum was created for the free exchange of information. A chance for ANYONE to pose questions to cuemakers and get their OPINIONS. I asked lots of questions when I first came on board....and, thankfully, I got a lot of help from the cuemakers who post in this forum. Let me take this opportunity to thank all of you for that.

I've learned a lot since I first started posting my "dumb" questions here and I now I try to return the favor by answering questions when I feel I have something to contribute. I don't mind if you don't identify who you are....I don't mind if you don't agree with me....I don't mind if you make fun of my posts:p...All that matters is that you have a question and I'll do my best to answer it. I truely hope that there are other cuemakers who feel this way.
 
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