If It Ain't Broke Don't Fix It...MR

Johnnyt

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The original MR's worked great and lasted for years. Now IMO they are too thin, making them too flimsy. For the last few years all you see are players and refs trying to get all the balls touching with new balls. Either the company has caved in and made them too thin because of people complaining about balls rolling off when breaking or they made them thinner to not last as long or both. Just as many balls rolled to a good place rolling over it as bad things happening. Pretty soon they will be taken as long to rack with the new MR as they do with the wood or metal ones. Johnnyt
 
The thicker magic racks were broken. The balls rolled off easily. So they fixed it by making them thinner.
 
If that's what they call fixed they just need to get rid of them. Johnnyt

The flaw is in the original design. Adding any material, regardless of thickness, between the playing surface and the object balls, will cause problems.

The simplest solution is... If you don't like them, don't play.
 
My solution was very easy and quick. I bought a Delta 13 Elite...:thumbup:
It works great, doesn't change the path of balls, doesn't crack, and its very quick to rack.
 
The original MR's worked great and lasted for years. Now IMO they are too thin, making them too flimsy. For the last few years all you see are players and refs trying to get all the balls touching with new balls. Either the company has caved in and made them too thin because of people complaining about balls rolling off when breaking or they made them thinner to not last as long or both. Just as many balls rolled to a good place rolling over it as bad things happening. Pretty soon they will be taken as long to rack with the new MR as they do with the wood or metal ones. Johnnyt

I agree with you, Johnnyt.
The original Magic Racks were great.
Hell, I had no problem with wood or metal racks either.
I'm not surprised however, that a continued optimization,
evolution and "improvement" is taking place in our industry's products.
That's a good thing though. Eventually someone will find the best design that works.

I personally find that if the racking conditions are the same for all players then truthfully,
I don't care how they're racked.
Consistency is most important when it comes to racking.:wink:
 
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My solution was very easy and quick. I bought a Delta 13 Elite...:thumbup:
It works great, doesn't change the path of balls, doesn't crack, and its very quick to rack.

and every time you rack with it it sounds like some one is running through your house clanging pots and pans lol I threw in the basement .. it was annoying as hell.
 
I've used Renfro's Accu-Rack (ddadams brought one to one of our league matches one night) and can testify that it's a great product. I need to order my own set. Some might say the drawback is that the 9 ball sits on it after the break, but I never once saw it affect the roll of the balls. Works great with older ball sets too unlike the MR.
 
i thought the Delta rack was ok ,it doesnt warp or change,that the naked eye can see,it definitely is noisy,but my friend has one and it doesnt freeze the balls either,its about the playing surface and the condition of the balls. His balls are brand new super aramith pro balls,so its not the balls,it can only be the cloth,the rack or the racker. I am not an expert racker i am sure,but the MR or any of the other templates take all those elements out of play,thats why they are so great. You know the thing that gets me is you hear people complain at every level about getting a good rack,then the templates came out, and you can get a perfectly frozen rack and hardly anybody wants to use them. That tells me that they secretly like to have the option to manipulate the rack. Just my 2 cents worth.
 
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