bumpypickle said:
Man,you're an asshole
If only the balls fell like Austin's tears.
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Man,you're an asshole
bumpypickle said:
I think the matchup was unfortunate in the sense that young Austin never had a chance and I prefer to watch matches where each player has a realistic chance of winning.
But I also think your post was demeaning to the kid. He can beat players WAY better than his classmates.
I realize your comment was sarcastic and not realistic but that is the point...sarcasm was unwarranted.
Jim
Just watched the first game and I gotta believe Efren played that 9 in front of the side pocket on purpose. Look at that layout. He blocks that pocket and he's golden. He was waving his arm around like he missed it but I bet 10-1 he put that there on purpose.
MULLY
MULLY
Tim-n-NM said:
tap-tap-tap.
Other "Child Prodigies"
Austin Murphy seems like a fine young man and I wish him nothing but the best, so please don't take the following as a dig.
Mosconi was billed as an "11 Year-Old Boy Wonder".
Mizerak played strong even as a pre-teen.
Allen Hopkins was playing (and beating) guys like Mizerak by his early teens.
Loree Jon Jones was in the Guiness Book of World Records at age 15.
Gene Balukas was another child star.
One thing they all had in common was when they started playing as children they were encouraged, nurtured and coached. They all pretty much grew up in poolrooms.
Although I'd rather have watched, say 2 Hall-of Famers or something, I have to give the IPT some credit for bringing something new to the party.
The Ortmann-Schmidt match was great, there should be more Straight pool coverage.
Austin Murphy seems like a fine young man and I wish him nothing but the best, so please don't take the following as a dig.
Mosconi was billed as an "11 Year-Old Boy Wonder".
Mizerak played strong even as a pre-teen.
Allen Hopkins was playing (and beating) guys like Mizerak by his early teens.
Loree Jon Jones was in the Guiness Book of World Records at age 15.
Gene Balukas was another child star.
One thing they all had in common was when they started playing as children they were encouraged, nurtured and coached. They all pretty much grew up in poolrooms.
Although I'd rather have watched, say 2 Hall-of Famers or something, I have to give the IPT some credit for bringing something new to the party.
The Ortmann-Schmidt match was great, there should be more Straight pool coverage.
watchez said:
Very good points Watchez.
Take out the name "Austin Murphy" and replace it with anyone's name who aspires to be at the upper echelon....They either have it at battle time or they don't.
Two points I would like to add.
1. I don't know if anybody really believed or thought that Austin Murphy had a realistic chance of winning this match vs Efren. It was more of an exhibition in my opinion rather than a legitimate match up. A time to showcase two very different players. One (Efren), an all time all-around bona-fide legend who we'll all be talking about for decades to come. And one who is a young gun who shows lots of talent but whose potential is still unknown. Lots of people are HOPING he has loads of potential, but his potential is still unknown.
2. Ralph Greenleaf, Willie Mosconi, Jimmy Caras, Steve Mizerak, etc were all able to beat accomplished champions when they gave "exhibitions" during the time when they were around Austin's age. Jean Balukas was another one. Chia Ching Wu won the World 9 Ball Championship at age 16, which is just two years away for Austin. My point being that many of the players who wound up at the upper echelon of our sport showed immense talent very early on and they parlayed what was already there by never giving up. Win, lose or draw, they kept at it and honed their God given talent even more because something inside them drove them. For the most part, they had single minded devotion. It will be very interesting to see how this big time in the lime-light will affect Austin as far as his pool playing future is concerned. It could be the fuel that really stokes him to press on and really knuckle down to achieve even greater exploits in pooldom, or, this loss could deflate him and cause his love for pool to fizzle out. There are a lot of distractions in the world for a kid who's not even old enough to drive. If someone has pounded into his head that he's the next coming of Mosconi, he tries his best and gets pounded, it could really play havoc with him psychologically.
Time will tell the story here.
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JerzyJoe said:
Lets not forget a 13 year old Keith McCready who busted the payball ring game at (I think) Palace Billiards against the best players in California
mullyman said:
link pleeze?
hilla_hilla said:Next Tar match up: Austin Murphy vs Bumpy Pickle
I'm betting on Austin
Thats the problem, the 14 year old is better than him and he cant stand it.
Like what? sitting inside playing video games getting fat.Maybe he likes pool. If he was playing football, baseball, or something else besides pool would you say would you say forget it go be a kid? didnt think so, that's the kind of comment that is killing pool. We should have fifty AUSTINS to attract the younger players.Tim-n-NM said:
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olauzon said:
olauzon not sure what ur looking for but I wont go there with u! I was being realistic like "most" of us are. I think I have said twice in this thread austin will or should become a champion some day! is that not support? Your choice of word "disgrace" bothers me but I wont go there with u! and not flame up this thread even more.
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olauzon said:
Olauzon,
I disagree that he's not getting support. The majority of these posts have been very supportive of Austin. Watchez said "The kid is 14 - I don't think anyone expected him to play and not miss." That sums up perfectly where the majority of posters are coming from.
I think what's being done is our "Monday morning quaterbacking" that is done after every significant match. That we're talking about him at all as a 14 years old says wonders about how he is viewed and supported here at AZB.
Austin was given the opportunity of a life time that many, many other kids would have also loved to have had. Does that make him immune or exempt from having his play and performance reviewed and rehashed by those of us (like you) who love pool and enjoy discussing the major events in our great sport?
If Austin or his family reads what most have written here, I think they woud be proud of what he did as well as appreciate the suggestions or constructive critisism that is being offered. Many of the posters made some great points that, if taken to heart, can only help him in his career.
And that alone shows much support.