If you could build your dream room that actually has a chance to stay in business…

Badpenguin said:
As opposed to what? Crackheads, meth dealers, degenerate gamblers, whores, and other such criminals? Cause look where that got pool in the US.
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You just described the last Chicago Bensingers clientele 😁.
A private club can provide a serene environment, but the only new blood are those invited as guests by members.
A room open to the public, but well policed is preferable. Those that appreciate a great/well managed room will obey the local rules of conduct to avoid being expelled/barred.
 
Mark V said:
I’ll give my dream/vision later when I have some time, but how would y’all do it. Layout. Rules. Attractions. Dress code. Security.etc.

From what I’ve observed in successful/not places is… it comes down to the girls. If you make the place girl friendly where they feel safe (big one) and actually enjoy the time there, guys will come and you stay busy, and hopefully turn a profit.

Girls have to feel safe and enjoy the food and atmosphere.

A room filled with old timers and sketchy just out on probation types… dead. Forget about it.

Again, details to come.
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Room layout and parking.
The Corner Pocket Franchise.
Their layouts were the nuts.
Also designed for handicap players to get around easily.
The La Montana corp I think was the name corp., hired on Frank McGowan a pro player of his era, he was involved in that part, room layout/spacing/bar/bathrooms/TD area, they were successful.
 
Mark V said:
I’ll give my dream/vision later when I have some time, but how would y’all do it. Layout. Rules. Attractions. Dress code. Security.etc.

From what I’ve observed in successful/not places is… it comes down to the girls. If you make the place girl friendly where they feel safe (big one) and actually enjoy the time there, guys will come and you stay busy, and hopefully turn a profit.

Girls have to feel safe and enjoy the food and atmosphere.

A room filled with old timers and sketchy just out on probation types… dead. Forget about it.

Again, details to come.
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I read your post up to "... it comes down to the girls." and through, yep, cute girls working and going to the place will make it popular. Then I read more... LOL

I have had quite a few guys talk to me about why they go to one place vs the other, and often it's "this place has no girls/women going to it, I want to go to a place I have a chance of getting laid in", basically. And of-course, the bartenders/wait staff being good looking is never a bad thing.

Some other things to make an all-around good place to go, plenty of parking, safe area, nice equipment, a lot of clear information about things like specials, events, tournaments, good pro shop, knowledgeable staff (several people knowing what a good tip or chalk is to buy vs just taking money and giving you a drink), respectful people going there (I don't want to sit through several almost fights or fights a night in a place, or a bunch of loud people hotting and yelling through the place all night. I have left several places like this due to other customers being belligerent or way ignorant that there are others around them).
 
I didn’t read all the responses but let’s get real. Here’s the four best rooms I’ve played in that have been around a while. No particular order. Study them and figure out what works best in your area.

California Billiards
Iron City Billiards
Hard Times Sacramento
Q-Master

Combination of 9’ and 7’ tables. Leagues and Tournaments.
 
CA Billiards and Hard Times are excellent examples of a successful pool room.
Sierra Billiards in Fresno is also flourishing and is doing a tremendous bar business.

When I’m there next, I’ll photo their drink menu. People are paying incredibly
high prices for alcohol that rival the Beverly Hilton in LA….$100+ for a 1 oz. shot
is nothing……some liquors they carry are double that price. And there’s a waiting
list for pool tables before 8pm. On Wed., Fri & Sat nites, there is a DJ spinning music.

It is definitely an upscale for a pool room and the owners obviously got it right because
in less than 18 months, they recovered their initial investment and are raking in the $$$.
 
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