Ignacio Chavez vs. Darren Appleton

thecure said:
By Bill Rosenberger

Ignacio Chavez didn't just win the Viking Cue 9-Ball Open tournament o*n November 13-14, he took the 48-player field by storm and blazed through the competition to win at Gametime-Riptide in Greenville, SC.

The host venue added $2,000, and tournament director Mike Janis was extremely happy with the large field that included players from 12 different states. There were also five former Viking Tour winners, five ladies, and four juniors included in the brackets. Chavez, though, shrugged off the competition and took it o*ne match at a time.

Chavez earned a spot in the hot seat mach with wins over Marcus Henley, Brian White, Jeff Bumgarner, Mike Stewart, and Tony Watson. Columbia, GA, native Joe Rossman also emerged to the hot seat match with wins over Brian Butler; Mike Gulyassi; and InsidePOOL Magazine's November Player of the Month, B.J. Ussery. However, Chavez made sure that Rossman's impressive win over Ussery was his last, as he dominated the match 7-2.

Watson, who was waiting for Rossman in the semifinals, had ousted Butler and Ussery to earn his shot at the finals. Watson, though, wasn't satisfied with just knocking out Ussery, as he took care of Rossman 7-3.

The finals pitted Rossman and Chavez, but the hot hand was still Chavez. Watson took the first game for an early lead, but he didn't have many opportunities to go o*n the offensive after that, as Chavez took seven straight racks to earn the 7-1 victory.

Results:
1st Ignacio Chavez $1,850
2nd Tony Watson $1,100
3rd Joe Rossman $700
4th BJ Ussery $425
5th Brian White, Brian Butler $200
7th Nikki Hollingsworth, Brian Capps $100
9th Mike Bumgarner, Mike Stewart, Jeff Abernathy, Scott Rabon $50


from the 2002 us open
 
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Ignacio Chavez?

BackPocket9Ball said:
When I left Master Billiards they were tied 12-12 in a race to 28 for $6,000 playing 10-ball. Does anyone know the outcome?

Isn't this the guy the cops wanted to talk to?IgancioChavez
 
Hal2 said:
He is from Mexico. I watched him play here in Ohio and is very good.

Did anybody jump in the box with him?

cuetechasaurus said:
Some of these Mexican players shoot inhuman when they are in dead punch. I would have to say the best pool I've ever seen is tied by two players when they are in dead stroke. Rafael Martinez and Efren Reyes.

This guy is consistent. His bad game is a good shortstop level.

thecure said:
just some stats from 2002 wpcWorld Pool Championship
July 13 - 21, 2002
Cardiff Wales

Tuesday July 16 Match Scores
Group 1
Mika Immonen (Fin) bt George Sarmas (Gre) 5-0
Chien-te Chung (TPE) bt Brian Nathaini (Ger) 5-0
Kim Davenport (USA) bt Ramil Gallego (Phi) 5-0
Young-Hwa Jeong (Kor) bt Wayne Lloyd (Wal) 5-2
Mika Immonen (Fin) bt Brian Nathaini (Ger) 5-0
Kim Davenport (USA) bt George Sarmas (Gre) 5-0
Ramil Gallego (Phi) bt Young-Hwa Jeong (Kor) 5-2

Ignacio Chavez (Mex) bt Akikumo Toshikawa (Jap) 5-4
Ignacio Chavez (Mex) bt Sascha Specchia (Sui)
Group 2
Brent Wells (NZ) bt Galliano Smit (Hol) 5-2
Cory Deuel (USA) bt Sascha Specchia (Sui) 5-3
Tony Robles (PR) bt Akikumo Toshikawa (Jap) 5-0
Sandor Tot (Hun) bt Brent Wells (NZ) 5-3
Akikumo Toshikawa (Jap) bt Sandor Tot (Hun) 5-2
Sascha Specchia (Sui) bt Galliano Smit (Hol) 5-1
Ignacio Chavez (Mex) bt Tony Robles (PR) 5-3

Where you get these old wpc info ?

thecure said:
By Bill Rosenberger

Ignacio Chavez didn't just win the Viking Cue 9-Ball Open tournament o*n November 13-14, he took the 48-player field by storm and blazed through the competition to win at Gametime-Riptide in Greenville, SC.

The host venue added $2,000, and tournament director Mike Janis was extremely happy with the large field that included players from 12 different states. There were also five former Viking Tour winners, five ladies, and four juniors included in the brackets. Chavez, though, shrugged off the competition and took it o*ne match at a time.

Chavez earned a spot in the hot seat mach with wins over Marcus Henley, Brian White, Jeff Bumgarner, Mike Stewart, and Tony Watson. Columbia, GA, native Joe Rossman also emerged to the hot seat match with wins over Brian Butler; Mike Gulyassi; and InsidePOOL Magazine's November Player of the Month, B.J. Ussery. However, Chavez made sure that Rossman's impressive win over Ussery was his last, as he dominated the match 7-2.

Watson, who was waiting for Rossman in the semifinals, had ousted Butler and Ussery to earn his shot at the finals. Watson, though, wasn't satisfied with just knocking out Ussery, as he took care of Rossman 7-3.

The finals pitted Rossman and Chavez, but the hot hand was still Chavez. Watson took the first game for an early lead, but he didn't have many opportunities to go o*n the offensive after that, as Chavez took seven straight racks to earn the 7-1 victory.

Results:
1st Ignacio Chavez $1,850
2nd Tony Watson $1,100
3rd Joe Rossman $700
4th BJ Ussery $425
5th Brian White, Brian Butler $200
7th Nikki Hollingsworth, Brian Capps $100
9th Mike Bumgarner, Mike Stewart, Jeff Abernathy, Scott Rabon $50

Did him and watson play?
 
Viking tourney

Regarding that old Viking tourney, it was short races to 7, he and Tony matched up twice, Chavez sent him to the loser's side, and they matched up again in the finals. When it says Rossman was in the finals, that is a misprint, as you see when it goes on to talk about Watson being kept in his seat. But Tony was the favorite that day, it's only very recently that someone might favor Chavez over Little T.
 
Chavez is an excellent road player, "hustler". He played a 19 year old up at Crown Billiards last week. He was down one set and the stakes were raised. His game got much better and won 4 straight sets. He plays the kid again a few days later, giving up the 7 and the breaks. He wins 3 sets.
He does not show much in the beginning. He only plays as good as he needs to to win. He plays great lock up safes.
He does not show any emotion what so ever, totally in control. It was good to watch him play. I believe he matched up with Hopkins last week in Edison. With Hopkins winning the last set in a race to 5. They traded sets prior to the last.
 
abbassi said:
I believe he matched up with Hopkins last week in Edison. With Hopkins winning the last set in a race to 5. They traded sets prior to the last.


Was this at Sharkey's? I think they played 1P?


Eric
 
Everywhere Appleton seems to go there seems to be great action stories that follow him;) I know very little about Chavez but he must be a fantastic player to be beating Appleton, even with a spot. Hopefully there will be more great stories to come from Appleton's stint in the US, kind of reminds me of when Feijen was on the road in the US many years ago.
 
mindtriplx said:
hey eric. nah they played some 10 ball even up.


Thanks, M. RAce to 5 in 10 ball sounds like a coin flip. Either way, theres been a bit of action at Sharkey's (if that's where they played).


Eric
 
sniper said:
Everywhere Appleton seems to go there seems to be great action stories that follow him;) I know very little about Chavez but he must be a fantastic player to be beating Appleton, even with a spot. Hopefully there will be more great stories to come from Appleton's stint in the US, kind of reminds me of when Feijen was on the road in the US many years ago.

Chavez beat him even up nine ball on tight pockets.

then wanted a spot for 10 ball and got the 9 wild. beat him again.

race to 21 and 28

so basicly chavez beat appleton a race to 49
 
Eric. said:
Thanks, M. RAce to 5 in 10 ball sounds like a coin flip. Either way, theres been a bit of action at Sharkey's (if that's where they played).


Eric

well they traded sets going to 13 back and forth. hopkins said hes tired so they played the last one to 5. and yeah it was at sharky's.
 
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abbassi said:
Chavez is an excellent road player, "hustler". He played a 19 year old up at Crown Billiards last week. He was down one set and the stakes were raised. His game got much better and won 4 straight sets. He plays the kid again a few days later, giving up the 7 and the breaks. He wins 3 sets.
He does not show much in the beginning. He only plays as good as he needs to to win. He plays great lock up safes.
He does not show any emotion what so ever, totally in control. It was good to watch him play. I believe he matched up with Hopkins last week in Edison. With Hopkins winning the last set in a race to 5. They traded sets prior to the last.


Appleton told my buddy at Masters that in his opinion, only Efren plays better safes than Chavez.

In all this the most puzzling thing is why after being beaten even up in a race to 21- then being absolutely tortured 9-3 in the tournament, why would Appleton want to play Chavez again and on top of it, now give him the 9 ball in ten ball!!

I mean, Appleton came into Masters tournament night, hung out for at least an hour and i dont think anyone knew who he was (present company excepted). He could play almost any player in the Tri State area but instead he choses to play the only guy around proven he shouldnt play. I guess it's an ego thing but he now moves down the list of Top Money Players in my view.
 
Nostroke said:
Appleton told my buddy at Masters that in his opinion, only Efren plays better safes than Chavez.

In all this the most puzzling thing is why after being beaten even up in a race to 21- then being absolutely tortured 9-3 in the tournament, why would Appleton want to play Chavez again and on top of it, now give him the 9 ball in ten ball!!

I mean, Appleton came into Masters tournament night, hung out for at least an hour and i dont think anyone knew who he was (present company excepted). He could play almost any player in the Tri State area but instead he choses to play the only guy around proven he shouldnt play. I guess it's an ego thing but he now moves down the list of Top Money Players in my view.


who is this appleton guy
 
thecure said:
who is this appleton guy

He is #13 on the IPT money list, he came in 5th (close anyway) at the US Open this year, he won the BCA 8 Ball Masters this year in Vegas beating Kirkwood in the finals and has a rep for big money games.
 
Nostroke said:
Appleton told my buddy at Masters that in his opinion, only Efren plays better safes than Chavez.

In all this the most puzzling thing is why after being beaten even up in a race to 21- then being absolutely tortured 9-3 in the tournament, why would Appleton want to play Chavez again and on top of it, now give him the 9 ball in ten ball!!

I mean, Appleton came into Masters tournament night, hung out for at least an hour and i dont think anyone knew who he was (present company excepted). He could play almost any player in the Tri State area but instead he choses to play the only guy around proven he shouldnt play. I guess it's an ego thing but he now moves down the list of Top Money Players in my view.


i agree. but i think the first day or couple of days here the first one he got into action with was with Chavez. i have no idea how that match up happened. my thinking it was probably because appleton went to the wed tournament ( i didnt go this week ). And it doesnt seem like appleton wants to hustle.. it seems more he is shooting for the best in the area, either that or wants the 5-10k action.. hence his backer posting he wanted the numbers for bartrum and corey. but i guess he got more then he can handle with chavez. plus nobody around here is gonna play for 5k with darren appleton specially coming back from the philipines and taking some names with him. plus the only ones that really gambles like that is the uptown crew and only bcause they back chavez and they knew how good he was. nobody else. except a few of course.

chavez and appleton shoulda came a couple months earlier. feijien was here for a bit, stalev. ( he will gamble anybody, except ginky i heard), a polish kid was here. whoa he can play. the only one to beat the korean for $. if feijen the polish kid or stalev was here you would see backers on both sides.
even when alex lely came thru to masters and robbed manny in banks nobody knew who he was ! LOL. WTF?
 
cheemagun said:
i agree. but i think the first day or couple of days here the first one he got into action with was with Chavez. i have no idea how that match up happened. my thinking it was probably because appleton went to the wed tournament ( i didnt go this week ). And it doesnt seem like appleton wants to hustle.. it seems more he is shooting for the best in the area, either that or wants the 5-10k action.. hence his backer posting he wanted the numbers for bartrum and corey. but i guess he got more then he can handle with chavez. plus nobody around here is gonna play for 5k with darren appleton specially coming back from the philipines and taking some names with him. plus the only ones that really gambles like that is the uptown crew and only bcause they back chavez and they knew how good he was. nobody else. except a few of course.

chavez and appleton shoulda came a couple months earlier. feijien was here for a bit, stalev. ( he will gamble anybody, except ginky i heard), a polish kid was here. whoa he can play. the only one to beat the korean for $. if feijen the polish kid or stalev was here you would see backers on both sides.
even when alex lely came thru to masters and robbed manny in banks nobody knew who he was ! LOL. WTF?


How could no one have known Alex Lely when he went through Masters? When Alex first passed through NYC in '99 I happened to be spending a couple weeks there, and we met and moved around a tiny bit. While he was ther he played at Chelsea, and he matched up with Al Lapena on a Monday night at the Golden Cue (meaning, as you know, that there were plenty of witnesses). There's no way those detectives up there wouldn't remember him! As a matter of fact, how he ended up playing Al Lapena is because one of the detectives knocked him when he was trying to trap Simon (remember Simon, the Asian guy? What's become of him?)
 
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VIProfessor said:
How could no one have known Alex Lely when he went through Masters? I spent some time with him when he passed through NYC in '99, and he played at Chelsea, and he matched up with Al Lapena on a tournament night at the Golden Cue. There's no way those detectives up there wouldn't remember him! As a matter of fact, how he ended up playing Al Lapena is because one of the detectives knocked him when he was trying to trap Simon (remember Simon, the Asian guy? What's become of him?)

Simon is still around Masters all the time.

One point. When you see a guy only once or twice and he doesnt really have any major distinguishing features and he changes his look a bit, it's hard to recognize him and if it is 5 years later forget it. Some people dont remember 1999 at all.:)

I saw Leil Gay maybe 4 times but when he shaved his head and took the mustache off, i didnt recognize him til i saw him walk around the table in that floating style of his with the nose up. The guy i was with was from Ohio and he had seen Lyle more than i and he didnt ID him.

Darren Appleton i had seen at IPT events and the BCA. He was always clean shaven, hatless and dressed up, Then he comes into Masters in jeans and T shirt with a 3 day growth, longer hair, 10 lbs lighter, wearing a camo hat. He actually looked hispanic. Finally i clocked him by his ears but it's not as easy as you think. A couple of guys had seen him beat Kirkwood at the BCA just in May and they had no idea.

Road Players will tell you how they torture the same guy 2 and 3 times with just a little look change. A little tweak and a couple of years and it's easy.
 
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Nostroke said:
Appleton told my buddy at Masters that in his opinion, only Efren plays better safes than Chavez.

In all this the most puzzling thing is why after being beaten even up in a race to 21- then being absolutely tortured 9-3 in the tournament, why would Appleton want to play Chavez again and on top of it, now give him the 9 ball in ten ball!!

I mean, Appleton came into Masters tournament night, hung out for at least an hour and i dont think anyone knew who he was (present company excepted). He could play almost any player in the Tri State area but instead he choses to play the only guy around proven he shouldnt play. I guess it's an ego thing but he now moves down the list of Top Money Players in my view.
I don't understand Appleton's stratagy in this case. I heard that he lost a lot of green on side bets. In the hood of 20 bags. There is some posturing going on right now about a possible match up between Chavez and Teddy Garrahan. They could match up in thye next couple of days, possibly Thus. up at Crown Billiards. Teddy is back from Vegas for Christmas. Chavez played a decent player at Clifton Billiards a couple of weeks ago in 1P giving up 8/4 & 9/5 on the break. He won both sets for 1/2 a bag.
The guy is a hustler, road player, considering that he does not show up in many tourneys. A classy well behaved player. Lets his cue talk.
 
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