Ignacio Chavez vs. Santos Sambajon
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I heard Chavez cancelled 'til next week?
JoeyA said:
He showed me a stance where all of your weight is BACK, which is where the majority of the Filipinos (and the majority of pros who stand straighter) keep their weight. Although I was a bit taller than him, after months it became very comfortable. To counteract having your weight too far back, with your bridge hand you press into the cloth which centers your weight. Most pros step into the shot and then step back into their final position. Obviously he didn't explain this, he just showed me with broken english like "foot here" "hand there" etc.
Later on after a long break from pool, I tried that stance again and it was too strainful on my legs, so I gave it up. Maybe I should stretch alot and get it back, because I was playing pretty decent back then. Very solid stance.
We would also play sets of 9ball and he would critique me on position and patterns. He was able to communicate well even though his english wasn't so good. He would just point with his stick and what part of the cueball to hit and show me the speed and motion of the stroke without saying a word.
After he lost to Shannon, the owner of the poolhall who was backing him, was absoloutely furious. He gave Santos the boot and I didn't see him for a long time. The next time I saw him he was playing real good, he tapped me on the shoulder and said hello. Ever since he's become pretty famous and I run into him, he doesn't acknowledge me much anymore, so I stopped bothering to say hello.
^ Chavez in action, I love it... he came down here a few months back and gave every 'top player' here the 7, if not the 7 and 2 games going 10 ahead. He seems nice - very respectful player - very quiet.. He gave me a few hours worth of lessons that really helped my game - I was supposed to give him a call and go up to Orlando to get some more lessons with a friend of mine, but that never fell threw.
I'll take a sweat bet via PayPal with someone for like $100, as long as we can post the money with some kind of mutual 3rd party.
I'll take a sweat bet via PayPal with someone for like $100, as long as we can post the money with some kind of mutual 3rd party.
cuetechasaurus said:
You know, not for this to become a pro bashing thread by any stretch, but I have noticed a few pros not acknowledging me similar to as you have described. I may have played them in a tournament and I know they remembered me but when they see me at tournament sites, they would not even nod a hello. Maybe I even gambled with them and they act like they have never seen you before.
John Schmidt, Buddy Hall, Charley Bryant are three guys that always say hello and chat for a while.
I am curious what makes the pro players ignore other players or fans.
The only legitimate excuse I can think of is that they are so preoccupied with their next match they do not want to even think about something in the past...
But thanks for the Santos tip. That is very interesting and will try it the next time I'm at the table. I have been instructed by top players to push my bridge hand into the cloth from time to time although I am not sure what it accomplishes, maybe a sturdier bridge that moves less but I'm not sure if that's what it does or not. I also don't know if putting downward pressure on your bridge hand is covered in any of the BCA pool instruction courses.
JoeyA
I'm not sure where, but somewhere down the line I started doing this unconsciously. I think it's the way I set up, but leaning on my back leg helps to automatically align when I go down on a shot. Otherwise, I tend to align looking slightly to the right (head to the left of the ball in front of me).
JoeyA said:
Yes, they're playing on Tuesday. The reason it was cancelled last week was because one of the parties didn't have the money--least I heard.Chesscat said:
Yeah i watched him at the Skins,it was a good match,he screamed his head off when he beat Danny because Delicious does it all the time especially for tv.I think it can go either way but if i get 2 to 1 on the money ill take Santos for sure.stolz2 said:
Fast Lenny said:but if i get 2 to 1 on the money ill take Santos for sure.
I don't think you even need money odds. It's an even gamble.
Tony
All I can say is regardless of who plays better than who, it's a different story when it's not a tournament and it's a one on one thing for bragging rights. I've yet to see Chavez play but I heard he's a killer. I've seen Santos play plenty of times and he's another killer!
We'll just have to wait and see what happens...
We'll just have to wait and see what happens...
-henho said:
There are only a couple of guys on earth head and shoulders above that competition and no living human would be the favorite vs that or any other strong field.
Chavez is not going to lose due to dumb mistakes, over aggresiveness or losing his cool. His stroke doesnt have too many moving parts either. He does tend to overextend himself by playing on little or no sleep. This wont be the case in a single match-up vs Santos and these are the reasons i like him in this match. Still I would not give any odds. Gimme him even up or ill take Santos if anyone gives me 6.5-5. Ill also bet even up the match doesnt happen.
I still want the best of it if i do gamble,its just my nature.Mystick Cue Fan said:
I've also heard that Chavez plays some killer safeties!