I'm looking for Red Circle Help!

ENGLISH!

ENGLISH!

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This may sound stange but I have never really played with the Red Circle Ball on any consistent basis until joining an individual in house money league & it drove me crazy.

Does anyone have any insights that might speed up my learning curve with this lighter ball.

Just yesterday, two(2) times after hitting the OB it came off the rail with nearly totally opposite spin than I had hit it with.

Please don't tell me that my stroke might be bad enough that I hit it on the completely wrong side than I intended because that is not the case and please don't tell me that maybe I did not put enough spin on it to overcome the outside spin that it would normally pick up because one time I hit it with outside spin & it came off the rail with inside holding spin.

My only best guess is that it is jumping up off the cloth & some how turning.

Those are just two (2) extreme examples but there are other times when it just does not do what I know a regular heavier ball will do.

I know some of you may think I am crazy(opening for a personal slur) but I'm not.

Has anyone had any similiar experiences that has an answer. I guess I'm just looking for confirmation. I know it draws easier & is harder to make it follow but are there any other characteristics that I need to give consideration that I am overlooking.

Thanks in advance for any help,
 
I won't tell you the things you don't want to be told.

What I will tell you is the cue ball doesn't lie.
 
Don't know what you are doing, but you can't change physics.

...aslo, I have no idea why you would post this in the Live Stream Area.
 
The real red circle cue ball has been used in tournaments across American for years now. I don't know how you haven't come across it all this time.

As far as weight, it is probably the same as most cue balls. I've actually used some red circle cue balls that seemed heavy.

I have played with the Measles ball and I could move it around the table easier, but I believe the weight might be the same.

The red circle does play pretty consistent and works good for me.

Seems most people call the red circle a red dot which is wrong, but I always know what they are talking about.:smile:


Sounds like you have a fake or cheap red circle ball. The real red circle is a good ball.
 
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ENGLISH! said:
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Just yesterday, two(2) times after hitting the OB it came off the rail with nearly totally opposite spin than I had hit it with.

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Thanks in advance for any help,
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I have seen one thing that makes the cue ball go just the oposite of what it should off of a rail. That is loose rubber. At the rack end of the table where some drunks will brab the rails to steady themselves as they go to reach for the balls. I have seen the rubber come loose in those 2 spots just about the first diamond on the rail. When a ball hits the loose rubber it does exactly the oposite of what it should do. A ball that should open up will shorten up and vice versa. I used to play a weekly tournament on such a table and always got a good giggle when a good player new to the tournament did not check the rails before starting.
 
ENGLISH! said:
This may sound stange but I have never really played with the Red Circle Ball on any consistent basis until joining an individual in house money league & it drove me crazy.

Does anyone have any insights that might speed up my learning curve with this lighter ball.

Just yesterday, two(2) times after hitting the OB it came off the rail with nearly totally opposite spin than I had hit it with.

Please don't tell me that my stroke might be bad enough that I hit it on the completely wrong side than I intended because that is not the case and please don't tell me that maybe I did not put enough spin on it to overcome the outside spin that it would normally pick up because one time I hit it with outside spin & it came off the rail with inside holding spin.

My only best guess is that it is jumping up off the cloth & some how turning.

Those are just two (2) extreme examples but there are other times when it just does not do what I know a regular heavier ball will do.

I know some of you may think I am crazy(opening for a personal slur) but I'm not.

Has anyone had any similiar experiences that has an answer. I guess I'm just looking for confirmation. I know it draws easier & is harder to make it follow but are there any other characteristics that I need to give consideration that I am overlooking.

Thanks in advance for any help,
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Never had an issue with side spin on a cue ball, but bad rails can do crazy things if you are playing on a new table.
 
Weight issue

I've weighed 50+ Aramith Red Circle Balls in the last 5 years. All weighed between 5.9-6.1oz's. There are Polyester Red Cicle Balls out there and I have never weighed one, there is a reason they're $7.00. How much is a cue ball suppose to weigh? Brian.
 
a1712 said:
I've weighed 50+ Aramith Red Circle Balls in the last 5 years. All weighed between 5.9-6.1oz's. There are Polyester Red Cicle Balls out there and I have never weighed one, there is a reason they're $7.00. How much is a cue ball suppose to weigh? Brian.
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Just weighed a red circle and a lot of cue balls with nothing on them but good cue balls and they were all 5.8 ounce.
 
The red circle cb will pick up spin off an ob easier then most CB.
You will get used to it.I have probs playing with CB that's not red circle.
 
What cue ball have you been using? The ideal cue ball to use is the one that comes with the set so they are perfectly matched, however, over time the cue ball will get smaller and play lighter. This affects draw and follow and is easily detectable. There is no set of balls that match the red circle exactly, but the closest would be aramith balls since they are made from the same company, but the matched cueball for their standard set is (or was) a red triangle.

If an older red circle is used it may play lighter so it would be easier to draw the ball and may act a little squirrely. There is no one formula for each cue ball to my knowledge because of all the factors involved when you marry a cue ball with a set of balls. You just have to figure it out.

Dave
 
Super Aramith pro balls come with a red circle cue ball in the box. Brunswick Centennials which are also super Aramith pros colored differently come with the same ball with a blue circle. These cue balls are identical to the object balls in these sets in weight and composition.

The problem comes from using the red circle cue ball with balls other than those they match. The trouble is the object balls, not the cue ball. That and good old fashioned placebo effect.

JC
 
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