Improving Shot Selection

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Hi I don't think I posted before, but here goes. I've been playing pool for some time and want to level up my game. I can make inconsistent run-outs and well, most of the time it's quite dependent on the layout of the table at the time. And based on feedback I've gathered, my inconsistency is due to my poor shot selection. So I want to ask if there are any solutions or methods to address my problem at hand :)

Thanks :D
 
Hi I don't think I posted before, but here goes. I've been playing pool for some time and want to level up my game. I can make inconsistent run-outs and well, most of the time it's quite dependent on the layout of the table at the time. And based on feedback I've gathered, my inconsistency is due to my poor shot selection. So I want to ask if there are any solutions or methods to address my problem at hand :) ...
Don't worry about it. As a beginner you are in the process of learning which shots are easier to make than other shots. That's a natural part of the learning process. You may well have an advantage over your peers in the long run because you are "investigating" shots they will never play. Eventually you will be able to make those shots and your friends will have no clue.

Have you gotten to the point of trying to control where the cue ball goes?
 
Don't worry about it. As a beginner you are in the process of learning which shots are easier to make than other shots. That's a natural part of the learning process. You may well have an advantage over your peers in the long run because you are "investigating" shots they will never play. Eventually you will be able to make those shots and your friends will have no clue.

Have you gotten to the point of trying to control where the cue ball goes?

Yes I can control my cue ball but I do misjudge some shots though. Also when I control the cue ball I can only get it to a rough area, not extremely specific areas that I want:(
 
Shot selection

Hi I don't think I posted before, but here goes. I've been playing pool for some time and want to level up my game. I can make inconsistent run-outs and well, most of the time it's quite dependent on the layout of the table at the time. And based on feedback I've gathered, my inconsistency is due to my poor shot selection. So I want to ask if there are any solutions or methods to address my problem at hand :)

Thanks :D

The four basic ways to learn shot selection:

Observation...watching matches on tv, the Internet, in person

Reading...quite a few decent books out there

Instruction...with videos or personal instruction

Experimentation...using your imagination

...your shot selection will improve with experience, but it requires paying attention when you watch...you can actually cultivate your imagination, - which is what shot selection is all about.
 
The four basic ways to learn shot selection:

Observation...watching matches on tv, the Internet, in person

Reading...quite a few decent books out there

Instruction...with videos or personal instruction

Experimentation...using your imagination

...your shot selection will improve with experience, but it requires paying attention when you watch...you can actually cultivate your imagination, - which is what shot selection is all about.

Thank you for the suggestions Donny:) got a few questions sparked though;

- what should I ask myself or look out for when watching matches on tv?

- any books to recommend?:)

Thank you:)
 
The four basic ways to learn shot selection:

Observation...watching matches on tv, the Internet, in person

Reading...quite a few decent books out there

Instruction...with videos or personal instruction

Experimentation...using your imagination

...your shot selection will improve with experience, but it requires paying attention when you watch...you can actually cultivate your imagination, - which is what shot selection is all about.

I am in a similar situation. Been playing for around 2 years. Watching others and then practicing those CB routes has helped me tremendously. Shot selection and CB position go hand in hand.

Seeing the natural path the CB wants to take and understanding how I can and cannot deviate from it. I used to try all kinds of miracle positions and finally realized some things just cannot be done or are too difficult to attempt in a match.
 
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I am in a similar situation. Been playing for around 2 years. Watching others and then practicing those CB routes has helped me tremendously. Shot selection and CB position go hand in hand.

Seeing the natural path the CB wants to take and understanding how I can and cannot deviate from it. I used to try all kinds of miracle positions and finally realized some things just cannot be done or are too difficult to attempt in a match.

I, too, am in a similar situation, tho I have a couple more years than you at it.

The thing that can become frustrating is when you start to naturally "see" some shots and leaves, why can't you apply that to every shot? As everyone has pointed out, experience is the only way for it to become natural.

It's funny, after a while, certain shots you will just "know" when you step to the table, without even thinking. I bet you already have some like that now. Think back, and those werent autopilot at some point. This becomes a fun realization as you progress, as you realize a particular shot has become almost unconscious, when a while ago you had to think it out.

That makes watching matches more fun, when you can watch others play, and start to realize that you knew what the player was going to do before he did it. Not every time, of course, but often enough that you feel that you're "getting it."

I am having a lot of fun with this stuff now, in my learning process. If I could get the execution more consistent, I would see greater overall improvement, but that's why we practice, right? I am sure you are seeing some of this already. Don't get frustrated that it doesn't happen all at once, for most of your shots, cuz it doesn't work that way. At least it didn't for me. You will really learn certain shots one at a time, at least to knowing them at that level. Experience, sadly we cant rush it....

Keep on keeping on....follow these instructors advice, as they are a great resource for us all. Have fun, and good luck.
 
My suggestion to watching matches - is to watch using youtube and try to guess what shot (8 ball or 1p) the player is going to shoot or what path they will use to get to the next ball (9 ball or 10 ball). Predicting is as good of a method as any. The reason I suggest youtube is to be able to pause to think through the shots, and then rewind to understand why they did something different than you predicted :)
 
My suggestion to watching matches - is to watch using youtube and try to guess what shot (8 ball or 1p) the player is going to shoot or what path they will use to get to the next ball (9 ball or 10 ball). Predicting is as good of a method as any. The reason I suggest youtube is to be able to pause to think through the shots, and then rewind to understand why they did something different than you predicted :)

:)
Yes, I've been doing this too. It's a great way to learn patterns. You see the same routes again and again. Like justadub says, after a while, the patterns become automatic and you don't even think about them, you just execute.

One limiting factor of watching on youtube vs. watching live in person is sometimes it's difficult to see when english is used. I am lucky to live in NYC and can watch high level players or pro's play all the time.
 
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Thank you for the suggestions Donny:) got a few questions sparked though;

- what should I ask myself or look out for when watching matches on tv?

- any books to recommend?:)

Thank you:)
Watching good players is useful, but you may not know what you are watching and then it is less worthwhile. It is best if there is good commentary on the match. If the commentators don't seem to make much sense or say anything useful, move on.

Get books by Byrne, Alciatore, Martin, Fels, Capelle. Just stick "billiards pool" into Amazon book search. Dr. Dave has lots of help for pool students on his site at http://billiards.colostate.edu/
 
It's tough to find good commentary, I find myself I'm making or "predicting" what the player is gonna do better than a lot of comentators, they blame it on the monitor and can't see the angle but I'm seeing exactly what they see and I still do a better job.

Now, there are lots of good comentators when it comes to 1p and one can really learn a lot.

Watching good players is useful, but you may not know what you are watching and then it is less worthwhile. It is best if there is good commentary on the match. If the commentators don't seem to make much sense or say anything useful, move on.

Get books by Byrne, Alciatore, Martin, Fels, Capelle. Just stick "billiards pool" into Amazon book search. Dr. Dave has lots of help for pool students on his site at http://billiards.colostate.edu/
 
You did not specify running out in what game. In 9/10ball the layout is set for you you can just learn on what routes to take for certain shots. On 8ball, I've never been a big fan of 8ball until recently and my game pattern play was pretty terrible because I just wanted to outshoot my way out of the rack. Best advise I ever got in 8ball patter was to run the rack backwards, doing that way makes you make a lot less mistakes and really think about the rack

Hi I don't think I posted before, but here goes. I've been playing pool for some time and want to level up my game. I can make inconsistent run-outs and well, most of the time it's quite dependent on the layout of the table at the time. And based on feedback I've gathered, my inconsistency is due to my poor shot selection. So I want to ask if there are any solutions or methods to address my problem at hand :)

Thanks :D
 
You did not specify running out in what game. In 9/10ball the layout is set for you you can just learn on what routes to take for certain shots. On 8ball, I've never been a big fan of 8ball until recently and my game pattern play was pretty terrible because I just wanted to outshoot my way out of the rack. Best advise I ever got in 8ball patter was to run the rack backwards, doing that way makes you make a lot less mistakes and really think about the rack

Oops >< I was referring to 9 and 10 ball. Would playing 8 ball be better for training shot analysis?
 
Watching good players is useful, but you may not know what you are watching and then it is less worthwhile. It is best if there is good commentary on the match. If the commentators don't seem to make much sense or say anything useful, move on.

Get books by Byrne, Alciatore, Martin, Fels, Capelle. Just stick "billiards pool" into Amazon book search. Dr. Dave has lots of help for pool students on his site at http://billiards.colostate.edu/

Thanks for the suggestion Bob:) I'll look up the books asap. Regarding the watching of videos... what should I be looking out for?

On a side note, I'd like to thank everyone who contributed to this thread for their advice:)
 
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... Regarding the watching of videos... what should I be looking out for? ...
Try to find good commentators as mentioned before -- people who can help you understand what's going on. Beyond that, notice which shots the player takes, how those selections differ from what you would shoot, and if the selection makes sense to your current level of play.

For example, if you cannot draw the cue ball half the length of the table, that might be a good choice for a pro (because it might be the simplest way to get position) but a bad choice for you (because it is not possible at your present skill level). This observation will tell you what basic sort of position you need to work on.
 
Bob beat me to it...

Watching good players is useful, but you may not know what you are watching and then it is less worthwhile. It is best if there is good commentary on the match. If the commentators don't seem to make much sense or say anything useful, move on.

Get books by Byrne, Alciatore, Martin, Fels, Capelle. Just stick "billiards pool" into Amazon book search. Dr. Dave has lots of help for pool students on his site at http://billiards.colostate.edu/

You read my mind, Bob, and responded before I could!

I'd add the "The "8-Ball Bible" by the late R. Givens, for 8-ball strategy.
Also, I'm beginning a series strictly on 8-ball defensive moves beginning in May in Pool & Billiard magazine.
 
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