The funniest thread of the year is now in the main forum. Thread titled "Walmart shafts"...about how Walmart cue quality is better than Viking. Absolutely freakin' hilarious if you get a chance to read all 4 pages...LMAO!!!
KV
KV
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- Thread starter Varney Cues
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I bet their opinion would change if they had to work on some of those boomerangs they sell.
I think that having knowledge learned from reading posts here helped him choose the item that he deems right for his needs regardless of brand. And that's something to be happy about. He was just referring to the particular shaft that he got and not the butt quality so the Wal-mart butt quality wasn't really compared to the Viking.Varney Cues said:
You have to remember too that maple logs are purchased by China by the shipload so wouldn't you think that some high quality logs somehow found their way to get mixed in with the load? Don't you think that log suppliers may even throw in some marginal veneer-grade logs in the load just to fill the order? Isn't it a fact that a cuemaker picks and chooses his materials from what is presented him whether it be logs, boards, squares, dowels or old house cues? Well, that's exactly what the poster did. He went and chose the best that suits him at what was presented to him. I'm glad that he's happy!
Add to that, the possibility that his budget only allowed so much for a new shaft. Kids need new shoes and bills have to be paid. I see no harm in recognizing priorities.bandido said:
bandido said:
My first cue was a kids cue. A little on the short side, rather light, golf handle type wrap. All sorts of plastic inlays (eventually a few fell out). Cheap wood in the butt. My father hand picked it out from a group when he bought it for me. The one he picked out had a good hard maple shaft, clear wood, nice grain. For what it was, the shaft was good quality. He had Bill Schick put a ferrule and tip on it at one time. Years later when I started to get a decent game my father bought me a George from Mike. I sold the cheap cue to someone for a few bucks. I wish I had it now. Years after I sold it I was in a game room, and suddenly I see this guy shooting with the same no brand nameless series cue. It had the same joint, the plastic inlays were the same, same length, same wood in butt, the wrap was nylon and falling apart. The shaft was as cheap and sorry as the butt, I think it was ramin, it was ugly and worthless.
Cheap and zero quality control probably means 99% crap, but maybe this guy bought one of the 1% shafts at wal mart. The shaft I had on that little cheap cue was one of the 1%. The guy said he didn't want to spend a lot of money, so he went to wal mart. I would not advise anyone to shop for cues at wal mart, but if someone only had $10 dollars to his name, I am not someone to tell him or her he has to give up playing or shoot with a house cue until he can scrape up more money.
Sorry if the story bored anyone, I just felt it somewhat relevant to the thread and what Bandido posted.
Kelly
PoolSleuth
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Some People do not have to have Quality to be Happy. They Guy who buys a K-Mart, or Wally World Cue, and is perfectly happy has no problem IMO.
Varney Cues said:
You posted to it like half a dozen times. I read his first post and didn't get any impression he was under an illusion he had a great cue, just he was telling a quick story of how he got a cue back in action in a funny way. You read into his story what you wanted to see went about insulting the guy. Why do you care whether he found a shaft in Wal Mart?
I doubt it. They buy that stuff because that's what they are exposed to first or willing to spend for. As their level of understanding and involvement in the sport rises so rises the desire for specialty equipment. You should be thankful to these low priced cues as they are what introduces a possible future collector or user to "personal cues" (as opposed to "leave in the bar cues").Arnot Wadsworth said:
On the contrary, it does! I welcome working on your so called "junk". It's good PR to future clients and friends. Most of the time, an explanation why their beloved cue being beyond repair or did what it did triggers a sale for me.Arnot Wadsworth said:
Not a statement that I expect to come from you with you knowing that I post and lurk here.Arnot Wadsworth said:
It's only freakin' hilarious to you, because you misread the entire post and the follow-up posts. And now you want to spread your miscomprehension? No surprise, I guess.Varney Cues said:
The thread WAS NOT making any suggestion that WalMart cue quality is on any level comprabable to Viking. For you to say it like that is a downright lie. And even on this thread, some posters are even "siding with you," because of your lie. I'm sure they didn't read the thread, but simply read your intro post to this thread.
The thread was about one guy buying a cue with a maple shaft from WalMart, making modifications to the shaft, screwing it onto his Viking cue, and being happy about it. He happened to like his resulting shaft more than *his* stock Viking. End of story. You wanted to make it something else by raining on his parade. And now you want to make up some hogwash about things that he didn't say??? How nice of you.
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PoolSleuth
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Another observation is Pool cue could be like Wine, when you find one you like you are Happy weather it cost $3.50/Bottle, or $50.00/Bottle.
Lot of Entry Level Players are not going to spend the Cost of A Custom, or High End Production cue for a first Cue. So tyhey got to K-Mark , Wal-Mart. etc.
Also many Entry Level Players have never had the Opportunity to hit with a Good Cue, so they do not know the difference between Good & Bad.
Lot of Entry Level Players are not going to spend the Cost of A Custom, or High End Production cue for a first Cue. So tyhey got to K-Mark , Wal-Mart. etc.
Also many Entry Level Players have never had the Opportunity to hit with a Good Cue, so they do not know the difference between Good & Bad.
Varney Cues said:
Well, ya almost got it right but truth is not your forte.
What I said was the SHAFT that I removed from a Walmart cue was better quality than the butt of my Viking cue. I stand by that statement. I'm not happy at all with that Viking that I bought new. The workmanship is second rate. Now, the butt of the Walmart cue is not pretty but the cue hits well. Don't believe it, I don't care but please don't misrepresent my posts.
PoolSleuth
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stroke said:
Thanks for Clearing Up what you said...
Since he doesn't have $50-75K for advertisement, I bet none.Matt_24 said:
I bet Parica and another player who is also known to scam cueamakers would be happy to have his cue.
bandido said:
AGREED, extremally well put bandido; I myself started w/ a Wal-mart cue, and still remember the cashier quoting me :
- (WOW, $39.00 on a poll stick,You must really like it Huh ?); and then a VIPER; then a LUCASI; Then a PREDATOR w/ a Z shaft; now what ?
HUHMMMM ??? I really like the cues that most of you guys build, will set my mind to purchase one,or (2 or 3) in the future; but remember guys! YOU wasn't born walking, 1st you need to crawll, and "ignorance" is BLISS; were I come from even a Wal-Mart cue would be of great success !.
But hey ? today i agree that the Wal-M. stick is a "peice ov shiiite"
, but now, in a good night I can say that i can kick many players A$$ w/ a Broom stick; LITERALY !; Wanna bet ??? Thats just my OPINION !!!
shafts
Many shaft blanks come from a single log. An overall low quality log can still have a comparatively small number of decent blanks in it. The suppliers to Wal-Mart don't cull out these shafts and resell them, they hit the production line. They aren't great by the time the factory gets through with them but they will get the job done for most.
When the only local cue shop stole my new shaft and replaced it with a used one that didn't even have matching ringwork I went to the local department store back in the mid-eighties. I paid $35-40 for a Canadian cue with a shaft having a matching insert and was back in business. This was a decent cue and fortunately the insert was centered. That is the only real surprise when the $8.88 shaft worked, that the insert was centered and square. I am none too sure that it will hold up but maybe by the time he needs another shaft he will be ready for a custom.
Hu
Many shaft blanks come from a single log. An overall low quality log can still have a comparatively small number of decent blanks in it. The suppliers to Wal-Mart don't cull out these shafts and resell them, they hit the production line. They aren't great by the time the factory gets through with them but they will get the job done for most.
When the only local cue shop stole my new shaft and replaced it with a used one that didn't even have matching ringwork I went to the local department store back in the mid-eighties. I paid $35-40 for a Canadian cue with a shaft having a matching insert and was back in business. This was a decent cue and fortunately the insert was centered. That is the only real surprise when the $8.88 shaft worked, that the insert was centered and square. I am none too sure that it will hold up but maybe by the time he needs another shaft he will be ready for a custom.
Hu
Matt_24 said:
I don't think my client list is any of your business. I do indeed have pro players using my cues. As for world champions...I do all the work for Allison Fisher (I believe she qualifies as a world champion), in fact I'm the ONLY one she'll let work on her cues. And yes...she has a cue that I made for her personal use. So there you have it...and I must say, its very nice of you to spend your time "often wondering" about me & my work.
I suggest you reread post #12 in this thread...here, I'll quote for you:Cornerman said:
"the shaft that I removed from a Walmart cue was better quality than the butt of my Viking cue."
So Fred...its looks as you are bashing me for no reason. "Down right lie", "make up hogwash"....you are apparently the one with the lie...and making stuff up...woof up someone else's tree...the truth is in the printed words...if you actually take the time to read them. Kiss my @$$!!!!!
If you read through all the bickering there's a lot of information in that thread. Too bad it's degenerated into internet challenges and name calling.