Input on Schuler cues

coryjeb

coryjeb

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Hello all, new to the forum. Was curious if anyone had input on a schuler cue. I am looking into buying one. I've had a chance to play with one for about an hour. It had a nice hit. It did feel lighter than the 19.5 oz it weighed, I assume that is because of the balance. Just FYI, it had a "schuler pro" shaft and a sniper tip. Any info would be helpful.
 
Nice 3 cushion billiard cues. I do not care for their pool cues, the taper is weird, balance is too forward. My opnion. Good Luck!
D.
 
schuler makes the best 3-cushion billiard cues in the world. if you get used to their thick taper,then for the first time deflection is reduced to zero.
 
Their billiard cues are not bad. I've played with an american taper shaft which consists of a combination of a pro and euro taper. It provided a firm/stiff hit.

I have a mint original purpleheart schuler 2/two shafts that has only been test hit and stored since 1998. PM me if you're interested.
 
coryjeb said:
Hello all, new to the forum. Was curious if anyone had input on a schuler cue. I am looking into buying one. I've had a chance to play with one for about an hour. It had a nice hit. It did feel lighter than the 19.5 oz it weighed, I assume that is because of the balance. Just FYI, it had a "schuler pro" shaft and a sniper tip. Any info would be helpful.
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First off, Schuler Cue has about a dozen standard tapers, with about a hundred others programmed. So, if you wanted a Meucci-like taper, they've got it. Billiard taper, you've got it. Snooker, same thing. The Schuler Pro has a little more growth than a Professional Taper by Schuler. I shoot with a Professional Taper (PP on the butt).

I have four Schulers, and all are balanced 18-18.5" from the butt cap end. That's fine for me, but many would consider 18" (my oldest one) a bit too far back. I don't recall ever holding a Schuler cue that anyone would consider forward balanced. But, maybe with a shorter billiard shaft that becomes the case.

The normal Schuler handles before 1995 or so were thicker than normal pool cues. Ray's hands were big and he built the cue with himself in mind. LOL!!! After that, the handles became slimmer. The aesthetics weren't much to look at until Ivan Lee took over operations. (Ivan is now with Simonis).

If you like the hit, buy it. Ray did everything he could to quiet the hit. The joint is one of the best engineered joints in the industry. He pioneered the interchangeable shaft idea. You can buy off the shelf shafts and better yet, used shafts that will guarantee fit your Schuler. His floating bumper/weight system is the only one of its kind in the industry. And because he decouples/floats the weight, this also helps to avoid any odd sounds that might be associated with the weight bolt.

Fred <~~~ Schuler fan
 
I never owned a Schuler but that's only because I never got around to it. They're GREAT cues. The only problem is there is a unique Schuler joint and I don't know if anyone is making that kind of joint now. You will be hard-pressed if you need any sort of work done on it. However, don't let that be too much of a detraction. That joint is, in my opinion, the reason Schulers have such a beautiful hit.
 
I am currently playing with a schuler and they do play good. It has two squirtless shafts for it also. One is a 12.5 and the other is 13 mm. The deflection is very similar to the predator. It is not my cue but it may be for sale once I get done using it if you are interested. If you are pm me and I will post some pics.
 
schuler is all about the joint. it has a decent hit, but i consider it a rather "raw" hit. kind of uncompromising, woody with no finesse(ie something you would expect from a cue made in the 1950's) and very similiar to a schrager if you ever hit with one. think of blocky furniture made by door store with no arm rests or seat pad. nonetheless, it does deliver what i think is a solid hit. it is/was a favorite of 3c players, so that should tell you something about the hit(shaft taper notwithstanding)

i do not know what current schulers LOOK like but when ray was alive, they were horribly crafted with glue plainly visible in the HUGE 1/64" gaps. based on that, i would recommend you buy a plain jane schuler, and not spend a penny more on anything fancy.
 
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Schulers really do have a beautiful hit. They are really popular around South Dakota. Right now the I am starting an OB-1 shaft on a Schuler trend. :D
 
this may sound like a dumb question, but what is the significance of 3 cushion players liking them? I have never played this and really know nothing about it. Thanks all for the input so far though. BTW, the one I am looking at comes with "professional" shaft. As i said before, the one I was able to shoot with before was a "schuler pro" which according to the schuler website is different in its taper. any input on the difference in feel, or would it minimal. just for the record, I currently play with a 10 year old 200 dollar mcdermott (nothing fancy). I do like the wood to wood feel of the joint (3/8x10).moori medium tip. break with a BK2. have shot with a few predators and couple schons and I did like the stiffer/harder hit. I have not seen, let alone played with any of the custom cues most of you seem to play.
 
coryjeb said:
this may sound like a dumb question, but what is the significance of 3 cushion players liking them?
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there's no "significance" for you as a pool player. and since 3c cues have a stiff taper, it's not something you need to concern yourself with. schulers were simply popular then but i don't know if they're still popular now....they're more popular with 3cer's than pool players.
 
coryjeb said:
Hello all, new to the forum. Was curious if anyone had input on a schuler cue. I am looking into buying one. I've had a chance to play with one for about an hour. It had a nice hit. It did feel lighter than the 19.5 oz it weighed, I assume that is because of the balance. Just FYI, it had a "schuler pro" shaft and a sniper tip. Any info would be helpful.
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Hey Partner, Schuler makes some fine cues, but they they are not far everybody,

Schuler makes a total of 10 different shafts for their cues. These shaft differ due to length, thickness, and tapper. The following is a break down of the different shafts;

Super X
Super Pro These three are pool shafts - different Tapers top to bottom
Professional

Schuler Pro This shaft can be considered for Pool or Billiards
American
European These are 3-Cushion Billiard shafts - Stiffer Hit top to Bottom
Constant
Super Constant

Snooker-UK
Snooker-US The difference is the shaft length and tip diameter.

Another thing to pay attention to is the weigh bolt system used on these cue, while the weight can be changed there is not as much flexability due to the system used so go with a weight as close as possible to what you now use.

Hope this helps

Manwon
 
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Schuler cues are simply outstanding. They are IMHO the best hitting and best playing production cues--period. I've owned two and hit a few more. I'm quite sure, too, I'll own more.

As one poster suggested, getting an after market shaft fitted to your Schuler might be a problem. But it's not something I'd be too concerned with. There isn't an after market shaft I'd choose over the Schuler choices anyway. Just get one and enjoy one of the best playing cues you can buy--at any price.
 
I have owned a Schuler for over 2 years and shoot with it regularly. Having owned most of all production cues (meucci, mcdermott, viking, etc.) and shot with them I am very satisfied with mine. I have 2 shafts that with professional taper. I like the firm hit it gives but have been thinking about having a predator shaft custom made for it for nothing more than curiosity I guess. Before you spend the money try alot of different cues out there because they are a bit pricey. I personally don't think you will be disaapointed once you become accustomed to the kind of hit it delivers.
 
I love my Schuler and, assuming it doesn't get stolen or trashed somehow, will never buy another cue. I have had different shafts made for it and that's not a problem. You can get them direct from Schuler or from one of their dealers. I'm also pretty sure they will install their joint on a Predator blank (or some other shaft maker) if you might want that in the future.

Bruin70 claims that their workmanship used to be poor and that you shouldn't buy anything above a plain jane. Well, the fancier cues I've recently seen at their shop look very well made to me. As for me, my cue was made in 1982 and there are no glue gaps (see avitar). I'm sure Bruin70 has a basis for his opinion, i.e., he's seen some bad workmanship, but he's painting with a pretty broad brush. Schuler has been in business over 30 years and made many thousands of cues.

I think Schulers have traditionally been very popular with the 3C crowd because that was Ray's game and he took a real interest in marketing to them. There was a time when many if not most of the best in the world played with his cues. I think some still do but others have dropped off for endorsement deals, which Schuler never provided.

As Fred and others have pointed out, Schuler makes many different tapers. I play with a European taper (12mm tip), and when I pick up a cue with a pro taper it really feels funny to me - exactly the opposite reaction from what you would get from pool players used to the pro taper who try a European. I think a lot of our strongly held opinions as to which this or that is best mainly depends on what we get used to.
 
I play with a Schuler Cue, and I'm very happy with it. The Schuler shaft I use is a 12 mm pro taper, which is not from their standard list, but "custom" ordered. The Schuler Cue folks told me that, in the last few years before Ray passed away, he pretty much exclusively spent his work time designing shafts on the computer. So, while the shaft I wanted doesn't appear in their standard list, it was on file somewhere in case it was needed.

I would be curious to try out an OB-1 on the Schuler sometime. Tanner, did you demo it somewhere before you bought one? I noticed that the Schuler doesn't appear in their list of standard cue configurations, so perhaps you had to request it as a custom deal?
 
I have no where near the cue experience of many of the posters above but I'll say this, I have yet to hit with a cue that I like better than my Schuler.
 
I have never owned a Schuler cue. I have however hit with two of them and I liked them very much. Both cues that I played with had a very nice "pop" sound when you hit the ball. I would not hesitate in purchasing one if you want a nice good playing production cue...................Best
 
I never owned one but

I never owned one but have hit/tried/played with at least 10.

Here is my cue/cue maker criteria (In order of importance)
1. Stiffness
2. Craftsmanship
3. Engineering (Joint)
4. Amount of deflection (Squirt)
5. Durability
6. Overall consistency
7. General Quality
8. Esthetics (Subjective)
9. Service
10. Customization and willingness to work with client
11. Value (All above / Price)

With the exception of Number 8 I score Schulers at 8 or better in every category. The cues never looked that apealing to me, but having said that I would exchange my current setup for a ugly cuetech,wear two stupid looking batting gloves, while waring googles and a t-shirt that read, "My other cue is a Meucci", for cue that would help me play 3% better.

Nick
 
Cuebacca said:
I play with a Schuler Cue, and I'm very happy with it. The Schuler shaft I use is a 12 mm pro taper, which is not from their standard list, but "custom" ordered. The Schuler Cue folks told me that, in the last few years before Ray passed away, he pretty much exclusively spent his work time designing shafts on the computer. So, while the shaft I wanted doesn't appear in their standard list, it was on file somewhere in case it was needed.

I would be curious to try out an OB-1 on the Schuler sometime. Tanner, did you demo it somewhere before you bought one? I noticed that the Schuler doesn't appear in their list of standard cue configurations, so perhaps you had to request it as a custom deal?
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I never tested it before. I have "connections". :)
 
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