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The employees that quit are only bitter because we are being blamed for this whole mess since we are not there to defend ourselves.
Inside Pool Afraid of customer comments.Wonder why?
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X IP employee said:
I have refrained from posting my thoughts on this whole nightmare for personal reasons.
I do understand the frustration of the folks who want to receive their products and/or get their money back, and I believe in my heart of hearts that this company will do everything in their power to keep the InsidePOOL ship afloat, to include making good with their customers and correcting any deficiencies within the company.
Having said that -- and this is only my opinion -- I find it appalling to read posts on every single pool-related Internet discussion forum that exists from a nameless ex-employee of InsidePOOL continuing to feed the fire, so to speak. Kick the IP dog when it's down, and keep kicking and kicking and kicking, using the excuse of "we are not there to defend ourselves."
Move on, X IP employee. Maybe, just maybe, the magazine can and will survive. If it does, then this pool world will be a better place because of it. Each one of the MAJOR three magazines fills a niche (IMO), and I hope that IP will continue on. Apparently, there are others who feel this way, too. I'm confident that the powers-that-be will do EVERYTHING possible to get out of this dilemma, but it will not happen overnight, unfortunately.
It's kind of easy to post in a troll identity and say whatever the hell you want, when NOBODY knows who you are and whether what you say is the truth. Maybe it's time to stop talking and start walking and look for another job. You made the decision to quit, and I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.
JAM
Donald A. Purdy said:
Gee um, thanks for the visual? I'll make sure to have my coffee BEFORE I log on here!
Regarding your telephone call, Inside Pool likely outsources its telemarketers. If they have any intention of staying in business (and I assume they do), they're going to continue to try and maintain their subscription list.
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JAM said:
None of us who have quit have said anything about the magazine itself. The issue here is that the company is taking advantage of unknowing customers. It has been going on for months (the reason we all DID quit).
The website, and the fact that it is still running and taking orders when they arent shipping is the problem. AND the fact that we are reading posts saying that the people who are working there now are blaming US for what is going on when in fact we did everything we could given the situation we were in.
We all NEEDED our jobs. It was not just a plan to get everyone together, quit and go on these boards to bash IP. The fact is, they are stealing innocent peoples money...regardless of what the initial plan was, after the first month, or two, or THREE the site should have been shut down and things should have been taken care of. We are only trying to warn you people about the lies and deception.
I apologize if what any of us has said has made any of you mad. We were just letting you know what was REALLY going on. Trying to save a few people from getting their money stolen.
As i said....if he was going to make good for ANY of this, he wouldnt have had us lie to customers and tell them that their order had shipped (several times), he wouldnt have passed the buck so to speak, and he would have TAKEN CARE OF THE SITUATION. But, he hasn't. Even after we all know he has read these and read what is being said.
He has nothing to use as a defense. He can not say he is sorry and make it all go away. He can not make a post and have the THOUSANDS of dollars people have paid for orders that they have not received be forgiven. It isnt possible.
We were only trying to help.
X IP employee said:
Who's the "we," X IP employee, and for that matter, who are you?
X IP employee said:
Could it be, pray tell, that there are circumstances, which could run the gamut, that NONE of us, to include you, X IP employee, are even aware of?
I have not read one post that places blame on YOU ["US"].X IP employee said:
X IP employee said:
"Lies and deception" are bold words, X IP employee.
X IP emloyee said:
There's that "us" and "we" again, and using the term "stolen" is pretty outrageous (IMO).
I guess you're capable of reading people's minds. How would you know who's reading what?X IP employee said:
X IP employee said:
I am going to reserve judgment and take a wait-and-see stance. I've seen quite a bit of impossibilities become a reality in my 51 years on this earth, and there are some folks who can make things happen and others who jump ship when the going gets tough. It's okay to jump ship in pursuit of greener pastures, but it is awful to make accusations about matters that I am 100-percent positive do not pertain to you. I run a business myself, and none of my employees could possibly know everything about what makes my company tick.
X IP employee said:
You may call it "trying to help"; I call it "fanning the fire."
JAM
The Railbird
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JAM usually I completely agree with you and yours posts on this board. Can't say that I do this time.
Part of the benefit of having a forum like this is informing people of what is going on out there. Check the Inside Pool site and forums. People are still placing orders right now. It is pretty clear that the website is just running credit cards to try to stay afloat and not sending out product. One of their suppliers has come right out on this forum and said they were no longer sending out product.
Everything that EX IP Employee says is being verified by other former employees all over the internet. These people are being blamed by the new Inside Pool staff as yet another excuse.
To say that we are kicking a dog while it is down is very uninformed. Inside Pool and their ownership made a decision to rip off their readers and users and they have refused to come forward one time and explain to all of us what is going on. If the magazine were simply going through some growing pains, then why can't the ownership make a simple post explaining what is going on there. Could it be because they know they have been caught and there is no explanation for their actions?
All of these sour grapes from you wouldn't have anything to do with your involvement with the magazine would it? What are you hearing from them? Certainly with Keith writing a column for them, you have contacted them with all of these rumours and asked what was going on. It is nice to know that you were paid for your articles where some of the staff are still awaiting a paycheck. What are you hearing?
Railbird
Part of the benefit of having a forum like this is informing people of what is going on out there. Check the Inside Pool site and forums. People are still placing orders right now. It is pretty clear that the website is just running credit cards to try to stay afloat and not sending out product. One of their suppliers has come right out on this forum and said they were no longer sending out product.
Everything that EX IP Employee says is being verified by other former employees all over the internet. These people are being blamed by the new Inside Pool staff as yet another excuse.
To say that we are kicking a dog while it is down is very uninformed. Inside Pool and their ownership made a decision to rip off their readers and users and they have refused to come forward one time and explain to all of us what is going on. If the magazine were simply going through some growing pains, then why can't the ownership make a simple post explaining what is going on there. Could it be because they know they have been caught and there is no explanation for their actions?
All of these sour grapes from you wouldn't have anything to do with your involvement with the magazine would it? What are you hearing from them? Certainly with Keith writing a column for them, you have contacted them with all of these rumours and asked what was going on. It is nice to know that you were paid for your articles where some of the staff are still awaiting a paycheck. What are you hearing?
Railbird
Sadly things are getting worse!
A good pool friend of mine who is also a frequent poster and known to most of you here (I will let him if he desires to, make his own statement or identify himself!) spoke with me yesterday and he not only being high up in Inside Pool but also a long time friend of JR's decided to try and get a statement made for the betterment of the site and the operation ! I must say it was unsuccesful since my friend is now not a part of the magazine anymore !
I sincerely hope the mag continues but I have doubts about the longevity of the site! 
A good pool friend of mine who is also a frequent poster and known to most of you here (I will let him if he desires to, make his own statement or identify himself!) spoke with me yesterday and he not only being high up in Inside Pool but also a long time friend of JR's decided to try and get a statement made for the betterment of the site and the operation ! I must say it was unsuccesful since my friend is now not a part of the magazine anymore !
I sincerely hope the mag continues but I have doubts about the longevity of the site! X IP employee
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The Railbird said:
What railbird said
To Jam
I also questioned the ex IP employees veracity due to a statement on another site ! but I have to say that after speaking offline with them I fully believe that it is an ex employee of Inside Pool! I did not realize that you were affiliated in some way with the mag and JR but if that is true I understand your wanting to defend a friendbut if that friend is taking peoples money and not delivering goods how is this in your mind defensible? I am just wondering! I am also out a Fury Cue but I realize many others have far greater losses than that and I have emphathy for them not for the persons pocketing their money under false pretenses! If IP had problems fulfilling orders and did the right thing by asking folks to be patient and shutting down the taking of others orders and payments till it was cleared I would be all for their support but when they still to today are actively charging folks cards for merchandise and not delivering ! I find that indefensible! sorry if your loyalty does not allow you to be objective to this simple fact
I also questioned the ex IP employees veracity due to a statement on another site ! but I have to say that after speaking offline with them I fully believe that it is an ex employee of Inside Pool! I did not realize that you were affiliated in some way with the mag and JR but if that is true I understand your wanting to defend a friendbut if that friend is taking peoples money and not delivering goods how is this in your mind defensible? I am just wondering! I am also out a Fury Cue but I realize many others have far greater losses than that and I have emphathy for them not for the persons pocketing their money under false pretenses! If IP had problems fulfilling orders and did the right thing by asking folks to be patient and shutting down the taking of others orders and payments till it was cleared I would be all for their support but when they still to today are actively charging folks cards for merchandise and not delivering ! I find that indefensible! sorry if your loyalty does not allow you to be objective to this simple fact
The Railbird said:
From one railbird to another, I'm just a pool enthusist who is hoping for the best. I do like the magazine. I really do.
The Railbird said:
I completely agree with you about having an informative forum, and people will always have a variety of opinions. I mean, pool has advanced over the years from 14.1 to 9-ball, and EVERYBODY has their favorite game they think should be on TV for the betterment of the sport, as an example. It is a multi-faceted sport, with a variety of games.
The dissemination of facts, though, should come from the employer, not an unidentified ex-employee, if it is to be taken as truth.
The Railbird said:
"Former employees" may have a different slant on matters, don't you think?
The Railbird said:
You're right, The Railbird, and I agree with you that I am very uninformed. I only provided another opinion.
The Railbird said:
Sour grapes taste bitter, and I'm more of a sweets kind of gal.
You make a few assumptions, though, in your last paragraph that I think you may realize, hopefully, it truly is impossible for you to have knowledge of.
I'm going to Albany and enjoy a tournament, just waiting for my clothes to get out of the dryer. I've got a 6-hour drive up ahead. I just got finished doing my taxes and I owe Uncle Sam big time. I am looking forward to this weekend, and I hope yours is a good one, too, The Railbird!
JAM
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JAM said:
JAM, I also usually find myself agreeing with you. But I almost can't believe what you're writing in this thread.
You say the dissemination of facts should only come from the employer? Why do you think we have federal whistleblower laws now? Because we could trust the employer to tell us when something was seriously wrong with their business methods? Obviously not. We depend on the rank-and-file employees in many cases to tell us when things have gotten out of hand.
I'm not sure, either, why you don't trust this person is who he says he is. And even if for some bizarre reason he's lying about his identity, who cares? Nobody is doubting the fact that many, many people have been completely ripped off by this company - which now no longer answers any of their phone calls or emails.
JR's curious lack of a statement of any kind, as well as the censorship of his board, is the most telling part of the situation. He knows everyone is talking about it, and he still hasn't spoken.
I am really shocked at your position on this.
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MrLucky said:Hell! I'm SHOCKED and APPALLED !LOL!
i just couldn't resist!
I was not posting here to start any fights. I just wanted to get the truth out. Sorry.
why???
why r people even bothering to stick up for inside pool???we r not talking about a little mistake...it has been several months...several tens of thousands of dollars...do u doubt it....look at all the boards...look at bizrate...over 500 reviews saying item did not ship....ip employees jumping ship....it is not a little problem...its a big one...and if it was a mistake somebody (jr or sally) would have came forword months ago....
why r people even bothering to stick up for inside pool???we r not talking about a little mistake...it has been several months...several tens of thousands of dollars...do u doubt it....look at all the boards...look at bizrate...over 500 reviews saying item did not ship....ip employees jumping ship....it is not a little problem...its a big one...and if it was a mistake somebody (jr or sally) would have came forword months ago....
as my granddad told me "I don't have a dog in this hunt.",,,but if I had been ripped by them as some claim, I would find out what state they are incorporated in, contact that state's Attorney General and get some questions answered,,,JMHO