Interesting situation...whats the rule????

Rackemep

Rackemep

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I was at a friends last night playing 10 ball, my buddy hangs the 9...I approach the table after BSing about the miss and his lack of shape on the 10...On my first practice stroke the 9 drops in the pocket leaving just the CB and the 10 on the table (this is probably 2-3 minutes after his missed shot)...What do you do in this situation???....After debating (friendly banter) I finally just conceded the game and racked them up again counting the game as a win for him (I did this just to avoid an argument and to get back to shooting pool)...I don't feel it was the "right" call but what is??? It wasn't like I went up and hip checked the table or anything but I'm sure the little bit of movement from me leaning my weight on the table is what caused the 9 to fall. What is the ruling?
 
here are the pertinent rules from the WPA
1.7 Balls Settling
A ball may settle slightly after it appears to have stopped, possibly due to slight imperfections in the ball or the table. Unless this causes a ball to fall into a pocket, it is considered a normal hazard of play, and the ball will not be moved back. If a ball falls into a pocket as the result of such settling, it is restored as closely as possible to its original position. If a settling ball falls into a pocket during or just prior to a shot, and this has an effect on the shot, the referee will restore the position and the shot will be replayed. The shooter is not penalized for shooting while a ball is settling. See also 8.3 Ball Pocketed.
 
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8.3 Ball Pocketed
A ball is pocketed if it comes to rest in a pocket below the playing surface or enters the ball return system. A ball near the brink of a pocket partly supported by another ball is considered pocketed if removal of the supporting ball would cause the ball to fall into the pocket.
If a ball stops near the edge of a pocket, and remains apparently motionless for five seconds, it is not considered pocketed if it later falls into the pocket by itself. See 1.7 Balls Settling for other details. During that five second period, the referee should ensure that no other shot is taken. An object ball that rebounds from a pocket back onto the playing surface is not a pocketed ball. If the cue ball contacts an already pocketed ball, the cue ball will be considered pocketed whether it rebounds from the pocket or not. The referee will remove pocketed object balls from full or nearly full pockets, but it is the shooter’s responsibility to see that this duty is performed.
 
since it was more than 5 seconds when the ball dropped
its your shot with the ball replaced in front of the pocket
 
I personally have always played the hanging ball is still live until the opponent shoots. That's how I play, right or wrong. I don't need any rule book for this.
 
Rackemep said:
I was at a friends last night playing 10 ball, my buddy hangs the 9...I approach the table after BSing about the miss and his lack of shape on the 10...On my first practice stroke the 9 drops in the pocket leaving just the CB and the 10 on the table (this is probably 2-3 minutes after his missed shot)...What do you do in this situation???....After debating (friendly banter) I finally just conceded the game and racked them up again counting the game as a win for him (I did this just to avoid an argument and to get back to shooting pool)...I don't feel it was the "right" call but what is??? It wasn't like I went up and hip checked the table or anything but I'm sure the little bit of movement from me leaning my weight on the table is what caused the 9 to fall. What is the ruling?
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I think you did the right thing.
 
Rackemep said:
I was at a friends last night playing 10 ball, my buddy hangs the 9...I approach the table after BSing about the miss and his lack of shape on the 10...On my first practice stroke the 9 drops in the pocket leaving just the CB and the 10 on the table (this is probably 2-3 minutes after his missed shot)...What do you do in this situation???....After debating (friendly banter) I finally just conceded the game and racked them up again counting the game as a win for him (I did this just to avoid an argument and to get back to shooting pool)...I don't feel it was the "right" call but what is??? It wasn't like I went up and hip checked the table or anything but I'm sure the little bit of movement from me leaning my weight on the table is what caused the 9 to fall. What is the ruling?
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I'd say...Give him credit for the home court 'hang time' (MJ reference) then let him shoot the 10...since you've now sharked him about his 'great' 10 ball shape... what happens ...happens. Remember its just pool.
 
rjb1168 said:
I personally have always played the hanging ball is still live until the opponent shoots. That's how I play, right or wrong. I don't need any rule book for this.
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Of course you don't need a rule book if you make up your own rules, everybody knows that.
 
rjb1168 said:
I personally have always played the hanging ball is still live until the opponent shoots. That's how I play, right or wrong. I don't need any rule book for this.
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Depends upon where you are playing at.

randyg
 
rhatten said:
I'd say...Give him credit for the home court 'hang time' (MJ reference) then let him shoot the 10...since you've now sharked him about his 'great' 10 ball shape... what happens ...happens. Remember its just pool.
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LOL...There was no sharking involved...You're right though it was just a friendly set and there were no real consequences, but what if it were a set in a tournament or a money game? Do you still give the same MJ hang time advantage to your opponent?
 
bbb said:
here are the pertinent rules from the WPA
1.7 Balls Settling
A ball may settle slightly after it appears to have stopped, possibly due to slight imperfections in the ball or the table. Unless this causes a ball to fall into a pocket, it is considered a normal hazard of play, and the ball will not be moved back. If a ball falls into a pocket as the result of such settling, it is restored as closely as possible to its original position. If a settling ball falls into a pocket during or just prior to a shot, and this has an effect on the shot, the referee will restore the position and the shot will be replayed. The shooter is not penalized for shooting while a ball is settling. See also 8.3 Ball Pocketed.
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I appreciate the info...:thumbup:
 
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