Intervention

BeiberLvr

BeiberLvr

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It's not always easy to spot an addict. Most of the time the clues are right there in front of us, and we don't even see them. Then there are the times we do, and yet, we just shy away and become ignorant to the fact(s).

My fellow forum compatriots, I do believe there is an addict among us, and I have taken it upon myself to stand up in the hopes of helping this person out. That person, if you haven't guessed already, is Duckie.



Dear Duckie,

I worry about you. Your addiction to this forum and use of an outdated and ineffective training tool is only hindering your own progress in this wonderful game. If you would just spend your time working on your game, you could actually become a decent player. Instead, you choose to waste much of your time coming to this forum and worrying about how others choose to play.



Sincerely,

B. Lvr
 
BeiberLvr said:
It's not always easy to spot an addict. Most of the time the clues are right there in front of us, and we don't even see them. Then there are the times we do, and yet, we just shy away and become ignorant to the fact(s).

My fellow forum compatriots, I do believe there is an addict among us, and I have taken it upon myself to stand up in the hopes of helping this person out. That person, if you haven't guessed already, is Duckie.



Dear Duckie,

I worry about you. Your addiction to this forum and use of an outdated and ineffective training tool is only hindering your own progress in this wonderful game. If you would just spend your time working on your game, you could actually become a decent player. Instead, you choose to waste much of your time coming to this forum and worrying about how others choose to play.



Sincerely,

B. Lvr
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Yes, Duckie, you too could perhaps one day become as good as Beiberlvr.

And who wouldn't want that? ;)
 
TheThaiger said:
Yes, Duckie, you too could perhaps one day become as good as Beiberlvr.

And who wouldn't want that? ;)
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I'm not a great player, but hey, at least I know how to use inside english ;)

But seriously, this thread isn't about me.

It's about getting Duckie the help he needs to get over his horrible addiction.
 
There is nothing wrong with either ghost ball or fractional ball aiming. If there was, snooker players wouldn't pot a ball. Maybe this duckie guy isn't the greatest player alive (I don't know what his actual skill level is, he could be better than me by far for all I know), but chances are that what is holding him and the rest of us back isn't aiming but execution. Fundamentals and a consistent preshot routine are probably the two main factors I know of to hold people back, when you disregard various physical handicaps, like poor vision and a bad back.

It is good that some people have an opposing view, otherwise this would have turned into TOI/CTE-billiards in no time, not due to the superior merit of those systems, but rather the silence of the majority and the verbosity of the system suporters. I don't see the point in bullying this individual any further. If you are that annoyed with him, there is such a thing as "ignore". I get that all this talk of the Cranfield arrow gets a bit repetitive, but what you don't understand is that to many people CTE and TOI talk can get just as annoying. We all get it allready, you have guys using these systems that are at the top of the food chain, but so are certain players using fractional ball and ghost ball aiming. The difference is that these guys don't spend their lives talking about it, they just get on with it. I think aiming is an interesting topic, and I have actually tried many of the systems discussed. I wouldn't want anyone to stop debating the subject, but maybe you could get off your high horses a little?
 
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duckie said:
You can go **** yourself.
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You tell him, Duckster! :cool:

This thread is exactly the type of thing that AZB does not need. We need to be supporting each other, and if you can't do that, at least have the decency to not attempt to publicly humiliate a fellow player. If I was Wilson I'd pull this thread and fire a warning shot over the Beiber's bow, but maybe he's too tired of this crap to care.

I personally don't see a wee bit of difference between using the Cranfield arrow and using a Centennial striped ball to learn where the quarters lie in CTE. In fact, I think it's a lot easier to see an imaginary spot that is exactly 1/2 the distance between center ball and the edge than it is to visualize a whole ghost ball. So, if CTE users need to use a striped ball as a crutch in the beginning of the learning process, who are they to condemn someone who is using a different contrivance to try and learn where the contact patch is, a contrivance that was invented and espoused by one of the all-time greats in the game at that?

I made an arrow up for my wife and she started making balls right away, which gave her some confidence to keep trying. Whatever works is what you end up using. I don't use ghost ball to aim, but my method is somewhat derivative of the ghost ball concept, and it works really well for me.

BTW I paid $50 to Stan for a copy of DVD 2 and gave it a good try before I decided it wasn't for me, but I have never said a bad word about the method here or anywhere else. I have my opinions on the method, but I will keep them to myself on a public forum. I feel Stan deserves that at the very least.
 
Straightpool_99 said:
There is nothing wrong with either ghost ball or fractional ball aiming. If there was, snooker players wouldn't pot a ball. Maybe this duckie guy isn't the greatest player alive (I don't know what his actual skill level is, he could be better than me by far for all I know), but chances are that what is holding him and the rest of us back isn't aiming but execution. Fundamentals and a consistent preshot routine are probably the two main factors I know of to hold people back, when you disregard various physical handicaps, like poor vision and a bad back.

It is good that some people have an opposing view, otherwise this would have turned into TOI/CTE-billiards in no time, not due to the superior merit of those systems, but rather the silence of the majority and the verbosity of the system suporters. I don't see the point in bullying this individual any further. If you are that annoyed with him, there is such a thing as "ignore". I get that all this talk of the Cranfield arrow gets a bit repetitive, but what you don't understand is that to many people CTE and TOI talk can get just as annoying. We all get it allready, you have guys using these systems that are at the top of the food chain, but so are certain players using fractional ball and ghost ball aiming. The difference is that these guys don't spend their lives talking about it, they just get on with it. I think aiming is an interesting topic, and I have actually tried many of the systems discussed. I wouldn't want anyone to stop debating the subject, but maybe you could get off your high horses a little?
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SP99, just so you know, I tried to green rep you but I gots to spread it around a bit first.
 
Straightpool_99 said:
There is nothing wrong with either ghost ball or fractional ball aiming. If there was, snooker players wouldn't pot a ball. Maybe this duckie guy isn't the greatest player alive (I don't know what his actual skill level is, he could be better than me by far for all I know), but chances are that what is holding him and the rest of us back isn't aiming but execution. Fundamentals and a consistent preshot routine are probably the two main factors I know of to hold people back, when you disregard various physical handicaps, like poor vision and a bad back.

It is good that some people have an opposing view, otherwise this would have turned into TOI/CTE-billiards in no time, not due to the superior merit of those systems, but rather the silence of the majority and the verbosity of the system suporters. I don't see the point in bullying this individual any further. If you are that annoyed with him, there is such a thing as "ignore". I get that all this talk of the Cranfield arrow gets a bit repetitive, but what you don't understand is that to many people CTE and TOI talk can get just as annoying. We all get it allready, you have guys using these systems that are at the top of the food chain, but so are certain players using fractional ball and ghost ball aiming. The difference is that these guys don't spend their lives talking about it, they just get on with it. I think aiming is an interesting topic, and I have actually tried many of the systems discussed. I wouldn't want anyone to stop debating the subject, but maybe you could get off your high horses a little?
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I second the notion! Green your way!
 
Poor duck..:)

I agree ,its not right to pick on someone. Duck is an expection here,he craves the attention. I don't think he's replied to one of my post. :confused::DHe's an --- and acts like one.


The truth is ,he should ignore what he doesn't like, but he doesn't.:wink:

I won't give up on duckie, maybe he can sit aside his difference on aiming and share his thoughts in away that is suitable for us all.:wink: If not ,that's OK to.:)

I thought the op was going to include my name along with the duck, I'm special to.:)
 
Some people really aren't that bright.

This isn't solely about CTE vs GB.

It's about a guy that spends all of his free time on here ridiculing a method he knows nothing about, and worrying about what others do instead of focusing on his own game.

Plenty of posters on here are GB users, but unlike Duckie, they can actually provide content to the discussions.
 
BeiberLvr said:
Some people really aren't that bright.

This isn't solely about CTE vs GB.

It's about a guy that spends all of his free time on here ridiculing a method he knows nothing about, and worrying about what others do instead of focusing on his own game.

Plenty of posters on here are GB users, but unlike Duckie, they can actually provide content to the discussions.
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You sure do assume a lot. This thread provided so much content to the aiming thread. Please look up the Term "God Complex" then go look in the mirror.

I am happy to have you as judge and jury.
 
I think the duck will stay afloat. Any man that has a screen name duckie ,needs to be ribbed a little. :p. Duckzilla would've suited him better since he uses the arrow thing.:D
 
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Something I realized about myself a long time ago......I march to my own drum beat.

I have never been part of the crowd, the good ole boys club.

Why, cause I think for myself, I have my own ideas and opinions unlike most on here that are nothing but suck ups with so low a self esteem that they can not handle not being part of the good ole boys club.

Or they can't handle facts that destroy their belief system so they go on the personal attack.

I say what I mean and I mean what I say....unlike so many on here that say whatever in order to stay in favor of the good ole boys club. Those that go with the flow are losers. They will never experience their full potential because they follow others and not have enough self respect to go on their own way.

Why I don't reply back alot is because over the years I find it a waste of my time. Some one will always take a pot shot at something I write about or me as evidence my this thread.

You either agree with it or not. That is your choice. I'm strong enough in my convictions that what others think doesn't matter unlike CTE users that can't seem to understand the concept that not everyone will fall in love with CTE.

My shit works. Plain and simple. My training methods work. Plain and simple. Anyone not believing this is their problem not mine. I feel no desire in trying to convince anyone to try it or to love it. You either get it or you don't and I'm not wasting my time on trying to convince people otherwise unlike CTE user who find it necessary to belittle those they don't embrace CTE as a useful aiming visualization method.
 
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duckie said:
Something I realized about myself a long time ago......I march to my own drum beat.

I have never been part of the crowd, the good ole boys club.

Why, cause I think for myself, I have my own ideas and opinions unlike most on here that are nothing but suck ups with so low a self esteem that they can not handle not being part of the good ole boys club.

Or they can't handle facts that destroy their belief system so they go on the personal attack.

I say what I mean and I mean what I say....unlike so many on here that say whatever in order to stay in favor of the good ole boys club. Those that go with the flow are losers. They will never experience their full potential because they follow others and not have enough self respect to go on their own way.

Why I don't reply back alot is because over the years I find it a waste of my time. Some one will always take a pot shot at something I write about or me as evidence my this thread.

You either agree with it or not. That is your choice. I'm strong enough in my convictions that what others think doesn't matter unlike CTE users that can't seem to understand the concept that not everyone will fall in love with CTE.

My shit works. Plain and simple. My training methods work. Plain and simple. Anyone not believing this is their problem not mine. I feel no desire in trying to convince anyone to try it or to love it. You either get it or you don't and I'm not wasting my time on trying to convince people otherwise unlike CTE user who find it necessary to belittle those they don't embrace CTE as a useful aiming visualization method.
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So you think you're an original, yet you subscribe to the most common aiming method out there. The masses aren't using CTE, Duckie, and you aren't marching to your own drum beat.

I can get along with ghost ball and feel players just fine. It's posts like the one you just made, and your holier than thou attitude that made me single you out.
 
BeiberLvr said:
Some people really aren't that bright.

This isn't solely about CTE vs GB.

It's about a guy that spends all of his free time on here ridiculing a method he knows nothing about, and worrying about what others do instead of focusing on his own game.

Plenty of posters on here are GB users, but unlike Duckie, they can actually provide content to the discussions.
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Again, the thinly veiled insult. What is with you? Just ignore the guy like 99.9% of us do. Or read his posts, shake your head, and move on. After all, the biggest insult of all on a public board is to get absolutely no replies to your posts.:wink:
 
8pack said:
I think the duck will stay afloat. Any man that has a screen name duckie ,needs to be ribbed a little. :p. Duckzilla would've suited him better since he uses the arrow thing.:D
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But can you imagine having a screen name like "Beiber Lover"?

Ouch. That's even worse than "Sloppy Pockets".
 
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