Is it "Cheap" to Sand Down Cubes of Master Chalk ?

OMG............ I buy a gross of master chalk..... it lasts about 3 years..... costs less than $30 ............... when there is a hole in chalk, I leave it at the pool hall............ I never have that blue grind ring on my ferrule

life is too short to be a cheap ass...............


Kim
 
Sanding chalk with a belt sander is a perfect way to injure your fingers/hand. Chris...it's your room your house your expenses. Never mind what anyone thinks.

The definition of CHEAP....some of my friends that never bought me a beer or grabbed the bill. :D

That is where my thoughts went as well.

One trip to the Er will zap LIFETIMES of chalk savings.
 
I think it's cheap. But..., I have lots of friends who do it. So don't sweat it. I think it makes the cubes less likely to walk off.

I am really careful with my chalk. but I toss it as soon as it bugs me to look at it. :)
 
Every time I pick up a piece of Master chalk that someone tried to extend the life in any way, I throw it, and if there isn't a trash can handy I throw it anyway.
Trying to get more life out of a piece of Master chalk is the cheapest thing in pool, and there are some incredible cheapskates in pool
 
if you are going to do it on a large scale at least use a belt sander. this way it only takes a few seconds to do it.

I did it with needle-nose vice grips and an angle grinder.

It's also a fun side bet to see who can get it fly further when the sander grabs it. Wanna race to 5 for a hundy?
 
Pool chalk is not the most efficient accessory in the poolroom. Over the years I've generally been spoiled to the extent that I throw away pieces of Master chalk when they get to the point that many people think it is just getting broken in, and have pretty much done that for all the Master chalk used in our 10 table poolroom for 20+ years. I've always thought it was a waste in that you're throwing away the cube of chalk when you've likely used no more than 20% of the total chalk in the cube.

Recently, just for the heck of it, I've gotten in the habit of sanding used pieces of chalk down (simply flipped upsidedown) on a piece of 60 grit sandpaper on a flat surface. If you're doing a bunch of pieces, it can make a mess, so it's advised to do it outside on a table. After sanding it the necessary amount, you basically have a new looking piece of chalk - just a little shorter. I can do this a few times per piece, until the side of the chalk goes from 7/8" down to about 1/2". You could go even further, but the paper wrapper usually is about worn out by that time, and it seems a little extreme to go any further than that.

Another factor is that a growing number of the regular players and weekly tournament players in here, including myself, use their personal chalk these days, so most of the players using the shorter cubes of Master are the recreational players, whom quite likely don't care and may not even realize they're playing with recycled chalk.

As a result, instead of going through a gross box (144 pieces) of Master blue chalk about every 2 months, now I can get close to 6 months out of a box. The roughly $100 in savings per year is irrelevant in the big picture, but it makes me feel better about not wasting perfectly good chalk. Just curious how others here would view a poolroom owner/manager who does this?
One thing to do is teach newbies(and some non-newbies) how to chalk properly. At my 'hall this guy-n-gal came in the other day and had NO clue. I walked over and showed them how to brush it on and not "drill-4-oil". They said thanks and now they know. Pieces last lots longer if not "drilled" thru.
 
I've always considered the bulk of the chalk a sort of handle for the bit that you're actually going to use. After years of picking up regular size pieces, I would find it mildly irritating to fiddle around with a little half piece of chalk. At home, I just toss out any chalk that gets worn down to the "handle" and move on to the next piece. I wouldn't think that it's really worth the time, mess, or sandpaper to grind old pieces of chalk down, but hey, maybe you're saving the planet one piece of chalk at a time...
 
How frugal of you. I think you should sand them down and come up with a new name and
label. Begin posting with a claim that this is outstanding chalk and your chalk is used by
Zam Figor of the Eastern European Straight Pool League. Then sell it for $9.95 a cube (1/2 cube?)
You'll do great
 
It's cheaper to use the badly-worn chalk properly.

That is, use the edges of the drilled-in hole to chalk with. Peel the paper back as you go. Soon, the piece
looks like a properly-worn piece and you still have half a cube to go!

Now, THAT is cheap. Or maybe frugal.

For those that spend $100 a year on chalk, wtf???????



Jeff Livingston
 
Here's a little secret: Good players don't drill holes into the chalk to make it need sanding. It is only The Borer Tribe who does that. Most of the Borer people won't notice if you give them the imported chalk that is three cubes for a penny.

Seriously, go to a major pool tournament with a lot of top players. The chalk does not have the wear pattern you see among non-players. You may want to ask yourself why that is.

That is very true.
 
No need

If you have a well scuffed tip you don't need chalk . It's just another gimmick .
Jack
 
It's cheaper to use the badly-worn chalk properly.

That is, use the edges of the drilled-in hole to chalk with. Peel the paper back as you go. Soon, the piece
looks like a properly-worn piece and you still have half a cube to go!

Now, THAT is cheap. Or maybe frugal.

For those that spend $100 a year on chalk, wtf???????



Jeff Livingston

Yes I use the edges. Not a huge deal to do so.
 
If you have a well scuffed tip you don't need chalk . It's just another gimmick .
Jack

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Jeff Livingston
 
Pool chalk is not the most efficient accessory in the poolroom. Over the years I've generally been spoiled to the extent that I throw away pieces of Master chalk when they get to the point that many people think it is just getting broken in, and have pretty much done that for all the Master chalk used in our 10 table poolroom for 20+ years. I've always thought it was a waste in that you're throwing away the cube of chalk when you've likely used no more than 20% of the total chalk in the cube.

Recently, just for the heck of it, I've gotten in the habit of sanding used pieces of chalk down (simply flipped upsidedown) on a piece of 60 grit sandpaper on a flat surface. If you're doing a bunch of pieces, it can make a mess, so it's advised to do it outside on a table. After sanding it the necessary amount, you basically have a new looking piece of chalk - just a little shorter. I can do this a few times per piece, until the side of the chalk goes from 7/8" down to about 1/2". You could go even further, but the paper wrapper usually is about worn out by that time, and it seems a little extreme to go any further than that.

Another factor is that a growing number of the regular players and weekly tournament players in here, including myself, use their personal chalk these days, so most of the players using the shorter cubes of Master are the recreational players, whom quite likely don't care and may not even realize they're playing with recycled chalk.

As a result, instead of going through a gross box (144 pieces) of Master blue chalk about every 2 months, now I can get close to 6 months out of a box. The roughly $100 in savings per year is irrelevant in the big picture, but it makes me feel better about not wasting perfectly good chalk. Just curious how others here would view a poolroom owner/manager who does this?

If you chalk properly, stroking the tip with the chalk rather than drilling a hole in it, sanding is completely unnecessary. I use a piece of chalk until it is so thin it just breaks. Without sanding. The only necessary chalk maintenance is tearing strips of the paper off.
 
If you want to save even more money, sell other brands of chalk at your pool room. Not only will you use less of your free Masters Chalk, but you will make money at the same time.

That $100 a year you spend on chalk, you will make a lot more than that in profit selling other brands. Heck, if the brand happens to be magic chalk, give it a try. I will buy back every single box you don't sell and pay the shipping back to me. Thus, you have nothing to lose and only money to gain.. not to mention less pieces of chalk being "stolen" from your supplied masters chalk :thumbup:

Nobody should have to apologize for being "frugal". It's more mess than I would deal with, but i'm not running a pool hall either :)
 
If you want to save even more money, sell other brands of chalk at your pool room. Not only will you use less of your free Masters Chalk, but you will make money at the same time.

That $100 a year you spend on chalk, you will make a lot more than that in profit selling other brands. Heck, if the brand happens to be magic chalk, give it a try. I will buy back every single box you don't sell and pay the shipping back to me. Thus, you have nothing to lose and only money to gain.. not to mention less pieces of chalk being "stolen" from your supplied masters chalk :thumbup:

Nobody should have to apologize for being "frugal". It's more mess than I would deal with, but i'm not running a pool hall either :)
FYI, I sell Magic chalk, blue diamond chalk, and chalk holders. In a response to other threads, it's easy to say someone is cheap as long as it's not their wasted money they are referring to. I have no problem handing a regular customer a new piece of master chalk for the ones that request it, but I've found very few have a problem with using the shorter, refurbished ones.
 
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Not so much for the cost, but when sometimes you just can’t locate a fresh piece:
The most practical way to stretch the usefulness of ‘drilled’ chalk is with heavy scissors. Only takes a few seconds to trim off the edges while holding it over a wastebasket.
 
FYI, I sell Magic chalk, blue diamond chalk, and chalk holders. In a response to other threads, it's easy to say someone is cheap as long as it's not their wasted money they are referring to. I have no problem handing a regular customer a new piece of master chalk for the ones that request it, but I've found very few have a problem with using the shorter, refurbished ones.

I agree, in my old days, I HATED old chalk. I would always try and find a good piece of chalk at the counter. Never stole any either. Now, I my chalk is used maybe a couple of months before I use a new one. I should sell my slightly used ones, they are perfectly fine, and maybe worn down 10% only. I just like grabbing a new box out of the basement every few months to throw in my case.
 
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