Is removing your glove a shark move?

SeniorTom said:
My point is this, and pretty much this only, certain situations, most people can be sharked by what appears to be subtle activity. When the pressure's on, and you got somebody that disrespects your turn, it just isn't fair or sportsmanlike.
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I had a moment yesterday and thought WTF is this goof doing. First off I waited 10-15 min after our match was called for him to show up then the 1st game he misses a shot and scratches. I get the CB and looking at the pattern for a second and he's pulling balls out of the pocket on the next table to practice. I sat on the stool by our table and he looked at me like WTF am I doing. I said I'm waiting for you to stop being disrespectful and get back here. My blood was boiling and I was so pissed off I let the goof get to me and it cost me the match after doing all the work and missing two 9"s for the win
 
boy, some of you wouldn't last a minute in the pool rooms i used to go to. people sat all around you when playing and talked and made comments and side bets.
put their cigs on the rail and even left them when your turn sometimes. chalk was never put any way but where it landed.

holding the rack when he were about to get out wasn't considered anything but in a hurry to lose another game.

rarely did you sit down when he was shooting you stood close by.

and no one lost their money because it bothered them. people in pool rooms had to have a thick skin.
 
SeniorTom said:
Where I play, all the elite players just go and sit down at a particular chair and don't say a peep in between their own shots. They have some class, they have learned, the sharking is for players who aren't that good or have a lot of respect for the game. We have a well-known sharker in our pool hall that just can't keep his mouth shut in between turns, yapping continuously and with intentions to disturb his opponent. People don't respect that, and shy away from him in open play and even in friendship possibilities, because he is such a shorker. In other words he is disrespected.
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Yup.. if I have to stand I stand away . If you go down on the shot and I’m right in your vision I look away and don’t move.
maha said:
boy, some of you wouldn't last a minute in the pool rooms i used to go to. people sat all around you when playing and talked and made comments and side bets.
put their cigs on the rail and even left them when your turn sometimes. chalk was never put any way but where it landed.

holding the rack when he were about to get out wasn't considered anything but in a hurry to lose another game.

rarely did you sit down when he was shooting you stood close by.

and no one lost their money because it bothered them. people in pool rooms had to have a thick skin.
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hell yeah . The old men playing straight pool used to stand in your vision and do little things like move the cue from hand to the other while you were down on your shot. Lol
 
maha said:
and no one lost their money because it bothered them. people in pool rooms had to have a thick skin.
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That brings a fond memory of playing on the lone pool table in a dance place on Friday night. At 10 a game! The place was so packed that it was difficult to walk around the table. To execute a shot My method was to get on the line of the shot and spread my arms and gently back up until I had room for a stance. Then shoot quick before the pocket collapsed.
 
Where I shoot at Music is playing, people are walking around everywhere. The counter is on one side of the tables so if u need anything u have to walk by while people are shooting. No one stops or considers someone may be shooting a shot for 5K. And the players don’t complain. Everyone just plays. I remember feeling awkward when I first started going there about walking by when someone was shooting a money game. Everyone there was like if you need to go to the counter for any reason just go it doesn’t matter. So if all the commotion and movement doesn’t bother these guys someone taking off a glove or unscrewing a cue shouldn’t bother u. Is it unsportsmanlike and classless? Yes. But should it affect u at the table ?? No.
 
Magictrat007 said:
... So if all the commotion and movement doesn’t bother these guys someone taking off a glove or unscrewing a cue shouldn’t bother u. ....
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What sharks is the unexpected. I've seen serious games with two or three people leaning on the table. That's what everyone did there. If I get up from the audience and lean on your table to see the shot better, I imagine it will bother you.

There are "virtual" sharks. Concede some easy nine balls -- and then when one is slightly tougher, get up as if you are going to concede and sit back down.

In McGoorty, Danny tells of the virtual shark an old Alfredo de Oro did to Cochran:

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And here is some more standard sharking from Alfredo:
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Bob Jewett said:
What sharks is the unexpected. I've seen serious games with two or three people leaning on the table. That's what everyone did there. If I get up from the audience and lean on your table to see the shot better, I imagine it will bother you.

There are "virtual" sharks. Concede some easy nine balls -- and then when one is slightly tougher, get up as if you are going to concede and sit back down.

In McGoorty, Danny tells of the virtual shark an old Alfredo de Oro did to Cochran:

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And here is some more standard sharking from Alfredo:
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I was just going to post a similar comment, absolutely accurate assessment, it's the sudden change that gets people riled. I like watching the PBA bowling on TV, and some tournaments the crowd verbally interacts loudly like a constant drone that doesn't bother the Bowlers at all, but if it went from no sound to that sound in an instant while he is going to throw his ball he would have a fit and probably be very angry !
 
Most of the time people that do this kind of thing simply can't control their emotions, and are poor losers.
It's only a shark if you LET IT be a shark. I do sometimes fall victim to it (my own fault!) but it only reminds me that I need to learn to handle pressure better.
It's a lot easier if you expect and accept that some players do that kind of thing, and learn to let it fuel you.
 
Sheldon said:
Most of the time people that do this kind of thing simply can't control their emotions, and are poor losers.
It's only a shark if you LET IT be a shark. I do sometimes fall victim to it (my own fault!) but it only reminds me that I need to learn to handle pressure better.
It's a lot easier if you expect and accept that some players do that kind of thing, and learn to let it fuel you.
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When my friends are sparring amongst ourselves for practice we will often do some "sharking." It's actually part of the practice session. If you practice getting sharked and fading it, it actually helps a lot when it happens in actual competition or action. Some pool players are the unsavory type, and some do it unintentionally. They get to stewing about a miss, the thought of getting beat, or whatever their emotions and reactions to adrenaline are... and sometimes shark without even knowing it. If I see an opponent sharking, I acknowledge it and mentally categorize it as they are squirming from being uncomfortable about the whipping I'm giving them. Water off a duck's back, then, and only then do I take my shot.

IMHO that's the key to fading sharking, acknowledge it, then categorize it, fade it, then address the shot at hand. Some sharking needs addressed. Sometimes it needs addressed because the simple act of addressing it will put them on further tilt. They started it, so if I can use it to my advantage to put a little seed in their brain so be it. 😅

A lot of this game is played in the space above the table. It probably shouldn't be this way but people are gonna people.
 
A player should always aim at being respectful towards an opponent and show class for them. Some people value winning over good sportsmanship, but the players that impressed me the most are the ones who respect their opponent, and stand or sit off to the side out of the way, and keep quiet. Billiards has got sort of a roughneck reputation because a lot of play is in bars where drinking occurs. It just hurts the sport when people lower themselves to sharking and actions that are similar.
 
SeniorTom said:
A player should always aim at being respectful towards an opponent and show class for them. Some people value winning over good sportsmanship, but the players that impressed me the most are the ones who respect their opponent, and stand or sit off to the side out of the way, and keep quiet. Billiards has got sort of a roughneck reputation because a lot of play is in bars where drinking occurs. It just hurts the sport when people lower themselves to sharking and actions that are similar.
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All that is true and if we lived in perfect world no one would have to fade the low-lifes that can't win without sharking. Fact is in the REAL world there are a lot of cretins who will stoop to anything in order to win.
 
if someone is sharking you just shark them back then it is equal, and you dont have to get all in a frizzle over something trivial.
 
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