But if you are sweating cause you're betting, then you're betting way over your head.
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Is Someone That Competes at Pool Considered an Athlete
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But if you are sweating cause you're betting, then you're betting way over your head.
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Can we say say most pool players(not pros) are lousy athletes. Does that work?
Are horse shoes and darts a sport. If an activity is classified as sport are the participants athletes? Hunting and fishing...great sports. Are the players athletes. Was Fat's an athlete....sorry fraid not.
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Tidly Winks?
Bottle tops and pick up sticks. Takes concentration and coordination.
But if you are sweating cause you're betting, then you're betting way over your head.
If you're not in over your head then you are just playing a game or you're hustling. And we all know hustling is an art. Which makes hustlers artists.
Allison Fisher had won the most championships in a sport ever.
Michelle Abernathy said this on Face book earlier and it does "sum it up".
A few years ago a sports magazine did a cover shot on a guy who had won the most championships ever in a sport. We wrote them and argued the point that Allison Fisher had won the most championships in a sport ever. They printed a retraction and acknowledged Allison Fisher as the single person who had won the most championships ever.
Check Mate?
Michelle Abernathy said this on Face book earlier and it does "sum it up".
A few years ago a sports magazine did a cover shot on a guy who had won the most championships ever in a sport. We wrote them and argued the point that Allison Fisher had won the most championships in a sport ever. They printed a retraction and acknowledged Allison Fisher as the single person who had won the most championships ever.
Check Mate?
CJ,
Sorry, I don't get your point.
If someone won the most spelling bee Chanpionships would that make spellling a sport. Just because something is competitive does not make it a sport.
Citing a magazine, a television show, or even a sports network does not make something a sport. They are all in the business of selling entertainment. ESPN & Texas Hold'em Poker is a prime example. Does sitting in a chair wearing sun glasses indoors, smoking & drinking while playing a card game in front of video cameras for a sports network make playing cards a sport.
The key is athletics which is basially defined as running, jumping, or throwing. I guess speed pool would be a sport due to the running.
Is there a real purpose to this thread? Are you doing research? Is there a need for us to see pool as a sport rather than a very artistic game that reqiures rather unique physical & mental skills.
I think Billiards probably requires a more talented skill set than golf. I don't think golf is a sport. I love both games. Hell, YOU even say, 'The Game Is the Teacher'. You don't say 'The Sport is the Teacher'. All competitive games are played for the 'sport' of the game. Hence the words sportsman & 'sportsmanship'. Technically, by definiton, if we threw the balls with our hands, pool could be a sport like the Olympic committee considers Curling a sport. Is that what this is about? The Olympics or are their Federal Grants for stuggling 'sports'? The olympic committee considers Chess & Bridge as 'mind sports'. Billiards might have a chance under that classification but I don't really see that either.
Some have mistaken good or great physical condition for atleticism. One can be in the best physical condition of one's life & not be athletic. Also an athlete can be very athletic & not be in the best of physical condition.
The general definition of athletics is running, jumping, or throwing. Billiards lacks all of them. Soccer is a sport but is Foose Ball a sport? Billiards is a game that requires a unique physical & mental skill set but it is not a sport. IMHO Sorry, I just don't see it.
Best Regards & Respect to You &
Sorry, I don't get your point.
If someone won the most spelling bee Chanpionships would that make spellling a sport. Just because something is competitive does not make it a sport.
Citing a magazine, a television show, or even a sports network does not make something a sport. They are all in the business of selling entertainment. ESPN & Texas Hold'em Poker is a prime example. Does sitting in a chair wearing sun glasses indoors, smoking & drinking while playing a card game in front of video cameras for a sports network make playing cards a sport.
The key is athletics which is basially defined as running, jumping, or throwing. I guess speed pool would be a sport due to the running.
Is there a real purpose to this thread? Are you doing research? Is there a need for us to see pool as a sport rather than a very artistic game that reqiures rather unique physical & mental skills.
I think Billiards probably requires a more talented skill set than golf. I don't think golf is a sport. I love both games. Hell, YOU even say, 'The Game Is the Teacher'. You don't say 'The Sport is the Teacher'. All competitive games are played for the 'sport' of the game. Hence the words sportsman & 'sportsmanship'. Technically, by definiton, if we threw the balls with our hands, pool could be a sport like the Olympic committee considers Curling a sport. Is that what this is about? The Olympics or are their Federal Grants for stuggling 'sports'? The olympic committee considers Chess & Bridge as 'mind sports'. Billiards might have a chance under that classification but I don't really see that either.
Some have mistaken good or great physical condition for atleticism. One can be in the best physical condition of one's life & not be athletic. Also an athlete can be very athletic & not be in the best of physical condition.
The general definition of athletics is running, jumping, or throwing. Billiards lacks all of them. Soccer is a sport but is Foose Ball a sport? Billiards is a game that requires a unique physical & mental skill set but it is not a sport. IMHO Sorry, I just don't see it.
Best Regards & Respect to You &
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Sooooooo...I was at the pool hall yesterday...guy walks in with a cue case.
I said "Care for a game, sport?"
He says "Don't play games with me, buddy...pool is a sport."
So I said "Well, if you're into semantics, lets just play scrabble."
pt..<..the billiardist :smile:
I said "Care for a game, sport?"
He says "Don't play games with me, buddy...pool is a sport."
So I said "Well, if you're into semantics, lets just play scrabble."
pt..<..the billiardist :smile:
CJ's point was that a newspaper that published a piece on a person who won the most sporting event championships retracted their statement in favor of Allison Fisher's accomplishments. If CJ had submitted the name of a person who had won all their championships in Scrabble then there would have been no retraction.
Pool is a physical game. We can debate the amount of physical effort needed all day but the fact is that pool is more physical than a lot of other sports which require very little movement.
And if you want to really sweat then do this. Throw out all the balls and try to run them all off in 60 seconds. Do this a few times and you will know you got your heart pumping.
In fact some people might argue that pool is even MORE physical than other sports because in this game you have to be in complete control of your body in tight precise and coordinated way that limits excess movement. We all talk about how dropping the shoulder, moving the head, moving the hips etc can mess up the shot and end the run. So you don't get to championship level unless you have learned to control your body to a very high degree.
Here is a test I would submit. If you can't play it with only your mind then it's a sport. In other words I can play chess, checkers, scrabble, etc...all with my mind. I can't play pool only with my mind. I have to manipulate the objects.
In fact Mike Page just did a video where he referenced an experiment where Ron Sheppard paired amateur players with advanced players and the advanced players were ONLY allowed to shoot what the amateur players told them to. So even with having bodies at their disposal that were highly trained the amateur could not perform well enough to play the game at a high level. Pool requires a melding of body and mind and if that doesn't make it a sport then I don't know what SHOULD be qualified to be a sport then.
pool is an average sport, however, it's the Greatest Game. 'The Game is the Teacher'
I don't really get your point either. I believe pool is the greatest Game, and I've said that on numerous occasions. To me the whole "is it a game/sport" is just semantics like another player just said.
My thread is titled "Is someone that competes at pool** considered an athlete" and then followed it with the Webster definition that declares that an athlete can play either sports or games.
For me pool can be called either one and I know very well, from my own experiences playing marathon pool matches that it does take an athlete to compete at this level. Is everyone an athlete that plays pool? That's like saying is everyone that plays basketball, or tennis an athlete.....it really depends on an individual basis.
I put the quote by the lady off Face Book about Allison because it was relevant and interesting to know a pool player has been acknowledged in this regard. So, in my opinion, pool is an average sport, however, it's the Greatest Game. 'The Game is the Teacher'
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ath·lete noun \ˈath-ˌlēt, ÷ˈa-thə-ˌlēt\
Definition of ATHLETE
: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina
I don't really get your point either. I believe pool is the greatest Game, and I've said that on numerous occasions. To me the whole "is it a game/sport" is just semantics like another player just said.
My thread is titled "Is someone that competes at pool** considered an athlete" and then followed it with the Webster definition that declares that an athlete can play either sports or games.
For me pool can be called either one and I know very well, from my own experiences playing marathon pool matches that it does take an athlete to compete at this level. Is everyone an athlete that plays pool? That's like saying is everyone that plays basketball, or tennis an athlete.....it really depends on an individual basis.
I put the quote by the lady off Face Book about Allison because it was relevant and interesting to know a pool player has been acknowledged in this regard. So, in my opinion, pool is an average sport, however, it's the Greatest Game. 'The Game is the Teacher'
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ath·lete noun \ˈath-ˌlēt, ÷ˈa-thə-ˌlēt\
Definition of ATHLETE
: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina
Jeanette Lee and her hidden, physical battle that would have stopped many "mortals"
Outstanding!!! Thanks, I heard about this and just listened to it.
I met Jeanette at the US OPEN when she had first got on the tour. I think she was around 20 years old and she was ready to "set the world on fire," and she taught me a thing or two about confidence. She had a type of confidence that I was only striving to achieve and certainly backed it up.
That's an inspirational story of the "behind the scenes" success story of Jeanette Lee and her hidden, physical battle that would have stopped many "mortals" before they ever got started. 'Her Life is Inspiring'
Outstanding!!! Thanks, I heard about this and just listened to it.
I met Jeanette at the US OPEN when she had first got on the tour. I think she was around 20 years old and she was ready to "set the world on fire," and she taught me a thing or two about confidence. She had a type of confidence that I was only striving to achieve and certainly backed it up.
That's an inspirational story of the "behind the scenes" success story of Jeanette Lee and her hidden, physical battle that would have stopped many "mortals" before they ever got started. 'Her Life is Inspiring'
Don't F with me and Catch Phrase you weak ass pool players. My thumbs are strong, my mind is agile, and I have the stamina to hit buttons and provide word associations all night long .
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The whole game/sport thing should clearly not be part of this debate. Almost all competitive sports are also games. After all it is the Olympic Games. The Inner Game of Tennis, a basketball game, the game of baseball, the game of football and so on. In our society the word game and sport is completely interchangeable for most competitive activities which require any physical interaction.
Would a pool player be considered an athlete? By most people probably not. Pool lies in that grey area of competitive activities that doesn't require obvious exertion but certainly requires highly trained physical ability.
I think it really does come back to the people who write about sports. Does Sports Illustrated consider pool a sport? Yes it does. And are the fatties that play pool athletes? Well yes they are. Out of shape ones but athletes nonetheless.
Listen to Howard Cosell here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6B1XncJoD0
This is obviously a man who considered pool to be a sport in my opinion. And he probably considered the players to be athletes as well, albeit well dressed ones.
Would a pool player be considered an athlete? By most people probably not. Pool lies in that grey area of competitive activities that doesn't require obvious exertion but certainly requires highly trained physical ability.
I think it really does come back to the people who write about sports. Does Sports Illustrated consider pool a sport? Yes it does. And are the fatties that play pool athletes? Well yes they are. Out of shape ones but athletes nonetheless.
Listen to Howard Cosell here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6B1XncJoD0
This is obviously a man who considered pool to be a sport in my opinion. And he probably considered the players to be athletes as well, albeit well dressed ones.
strict definition
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ath·lete noun \ˈath-ˌlēt, ÷ˈa-thə-ˌlēt\
"Strict" Definition of ATHLETE
: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina
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ath·lete noun \ˈath-ˌlēt, ÷ˈa-thə-ˌlēt\
"Strict" Definition of ATHLETE
: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina
I've played in tournaments where stamina certainly played a big part in deciding who won. After eight hours playing without a break plenty of people begin to flag a bit.