Straight pool is officially dead and pool is on life support.
Is Straight Pool Officially Dead?
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I know straight pool is dead,,,buried it out back of Amanda's Gameroom last week,,,barring any miracles, I'm gonna bury the whole damn pool room at the end of April,,,,,just the facts; Mississippi is in a recession,,,politicians won't use the word, but it's already here,,,rest of the nation to follow within a year,,,'film at eleven, back to you Teach,,,'
bud green said:
It's certainly a perk of living here. Just two nights ago, I was playing a Straight Pool League match and Tony Robles starting shooting on the next table. Both me and my opponent were not paying any attention to our League match when we were in the chair. All eyes were on Tony.
cues 14-1
its in the primary stages richard just ok'd saturdays @ 3PM as the time he could do it ! Ive been in NY on some family issues so I have been handicapped in getting things rolling ! though Gerald who is up your way is going to work with me to start one at the pool room in Marrietta!Jersey said:When is that starting?...was there weekend before last, didn't hear anything about it?...not saying I'm any good...but love to play it...hmm...maybe if I played more, my game would improve!?...novel idea, huh?...
can't believe Accu-Stats wasn't at the NJ Championship...Colavita is well known, and has been carrying the torch of 14:1 forever...and there are big names at the Jersey event?...go figure...yet another problem for the Billiard world to deal with...
What A Shame
Red Skelton was called into the office and sat down with the heads of programming at NBC. He was introduced to a new word "DEMOGRAPHICS." He was the first fatality. The powers that be simply said " Red.....Jello has determined that their product is not being purchased by the people who watch your show and you are out!"
Let's face it pool is a great game to play but it is not too much fun to watch. Especially if you are a non - player and do not even know what to look for.So..........the media determines what the public is gonig to see.
There is no excitement for the average citizen. Why? There are no stats kept on players that get into the news on a regular basis! Ask the next 100 people you see walking down the street who Earl Strickland or Efren Reyes is.
Go back two weeks later and ask the same people who Minnesota Fats or Willie Moscone is?
You will get some interesting results. My last count was Moscone high run 14.1 continuous 526.
Eddie Taylor bank pool 27.
This has to be made known to the public and every tournament winner should get a crack at both of those records with a substantial monetary reward and official recognition.
Until the public is made aware as to how difficult these records are no one is going to revive pool.
If you revive it the only hope to keep it alive is from the ground up.That means emphasis on Junior Pool.
In the old days if you wanted to learn how to play it cost you money. The oldtimers felt they learned the hard way and so must you. Now it is time to create an atmosphere of learning and to get it into the Olympics and let America find the GOLD again.
Titanic Jerry
Red Skelton was called into the office and sat down with the heads of programming at NBC. He was introduced to a new word "DEMOGRAPHICS." He was the first fatality. The powers that be simply said " Red.....Jello has determined that their product is not being purchased by the people who watch your show and you are out!"
Let's face it pool is a great game to play but it is not too much fun to watch. Especially if you are a non - player and do not even know what to look for.So..........the media determines what the public is gonig to see.
There is no excitement for the average citizen. Why? There are no stats kept on players that get into the news on a regular basis! Ask the next 100 people you see walking down the street who Earl Strickland or Efren Reyes is.
Go back two weeks later and ask the same people who Minnesota Fats or Willie Moscone is?
You will get some interesting results. My last count was Moscone high run 14.1 continuous 526.
Eddie Taylor bank pool 27.
This has to be made known to the public and every tournament winner should get a crack at both of those records with a substantial monetary reward and official recognition.
Until the public is made aware as to how difficult these records are no one is going to revive pool.
If you revive it the only hope to keep it alive is from the ground up.That means emphasis on Junior Pool.
In the old days if you wanted to learn how to play it cost you money. The oldtimers felt they learned the hard way and so must you. Now it is time to create an atmosphere of learning and to get it into the Olympics and let America find the GOLD again.
Titanic Jerry
DCC has banks b/c that area of the country has traditionally been the best bank pool area. And I would have to say that 14.1 is dead in my area but I still try to run more than 14 a couple ofx a week.
TheOne said:I have always been curious why the DCC has banks instead of straight pool as one of the main events? I suspect its for historical reasons, has anyone ever tried to get them to add straight pool or would the venue simply not be able to cope? I had never even heard of banks before this tournmanet and you hear even less about bank tournmanets than straight pool around the world.
14:1, 8 Ball and 9 Ball, that would be my pick
bruin70 said:
BINGO!!!! And that also explains why 14.1 has declined so much since it's heyday. It also explains why Texas Hold-em has displacing stud poker, it is faster and has a greater element of luck, providing the illusion that anybody can win. Same thing with 14.1 vs 9-ball, 9-ball is a better gambling game and for a lot of people it is all about gambling and pool is just a vehicle to gamble. And at the moment at least it would appear that 9-ball is being hurt by poker for the same reasons 9-ball overtook 14.1.
One last thought, Texas Hold 'Em, Texas Express; coincidence?
Zagiflyer said:
Hi, Ken.
As you know, we are doing what we can to keep it alive in Chicago. Last night, I had my straight league matches until about Midnight at the Illinois Billiards Club. Monday was straight league at Red Shoes in Alsip.
Red Shoes in Alsip, Illinois (708 388-3700) is also putting on an open straight tournament on May 7, 2005 starting at 11:00 a.m. $500 added (based upon a full field of 32) . For you One Pocket afficianados, same format on May 21, 2005 at the same time.
MrLucky said:its in the primary stages richard just ok'd saturdays @ 3PM as the time he could do it ! Ive been in NY on some family issues so I have been handicapped in getting things rolling ! though Gerald who is up your way is going to work with me to start one at the pool room in Marrietta!
Cool...I'll keep my ears peel'd...I'll be playing the APA Scotch Doubles 8-Ball Tourny at Cues on 4.17...would be great to get something going at The Pool Room...they run every league format there is, and have an 8/9 Ball Tourny almost everyday of the week...great room!
Zagiflyer said:
I'm afraid your probably right, in Germany especially 14.1 is very popular almost as popular as nine ball. I guess that's why every german that comes over plays an impressive straight pool game (Hohmann, Engert, etc.)
My uncle spent a couple years over there and said their straight pool league is very competitive and loaded with good players.
I agree, our hopes for professional straight pool may have to derive from somewhere other than its native soil. As Mr. Lucky and catscradle said, contemporary American culture is about money (or debt) changing hands quick. Just look at the Wall Street casino for a clue.sniper said:
But reality is, America's quick and easy culture is also compromising its 9 ball and everything else. The future of 9 ball also appears to be looking to Asia for answers.
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The big boys play it still but none on the tube.There have been some pretty large games as of late and I know of one that went over 6 figs in the uK last month.*I personally really really wish that the game would resurface as it is the tell of who is who.I love all games but straight pool cleaned the field .Say Im averageing 200 balls . I can set 9 racks in 9 ball and see a guy run out a set on me and not be able to shoot.Even though he may be able to only run 10 or 15 balls.Im a better shooter then him but he wins.Thats the only dry taste in my mouth about the loss of straight pool and to try to compensate it with 1 pocket did not fit well either.Yes the game needs to return in a BIG way so people can see what a real heavy hitter is.bud green said:
Zagiflyer said:
Yeah, it's worked so well for snooker!! It'll never happen because Americans have a fast food mentality when it comes to sports.
The answer is yes, it's been dead for a while now.