is SVB doing to 10ball what Corey did to 9ball??

CJ Wiley said:
racking your own balls with a magic rack is like Barry Bonds pitching to himself.
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CJ, I know you're very old school... have you spent much time with the magic rack, or you're only playing with regular racks?
If you've used it for hours, you should already know... it doesn't matter who rolls the balls onto it. The balls roll into their little slots and settle there,
and they don't know or care who touched them last. They react the same whether it's shane or some third party.

To me, 'bonds pitching to himself' implies something kind of shady, like shane "made the rack easier on himself". If that's what you mean, that's kind of like publicly accusing him of cheating. I don't think that's your intent but how else can we interpret it?

The thing is, I'm not even sure cheating is physically possible with the 10b magic rack. Trob seems to think it is. I'll need a demonstration. In 9b you can leave a gap on purpose to help yourself. But for 10b, the balls that go in the side are pointing one diamond south of the pocket. I don't think they can "climb uphill" with a gap, only when they're dead nuts frozen.
 
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i like that idea for ten ball, random spot for the one
CreeDo said:
Interesting thought, but I think no... Nine ball break really is too easy, a C player can make the wing ball with the magic rack. I mean 100%. Donny mills made it 82 out of 83 in TAR 17.

Ten ball, the absolute world's best breaker only makes it 80%. And that's when he's hitting it really well. a more typical percentage is maybe 60% or sometimes even lower.

Also, the whole "same layout" thing is a myth. Nobody gets the same runout twice even with soft break 9b. Lots of randomness in the break. The only important ball that ends up in the same place every time is the 1... can't change that.

Actually, they could. If they wanted to "fix" the ten ball break, placing the 1 ball randomly might be interesting. Then the dedicated players might learn several different breaks depending on the 1's position in the rack.
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nb92 said:
No, the “soft” 9-ball break is repeatable by most people who try it.... Shane’s break style is not. Even Shane has talked about “losing” his break and needing to study tapes from 2007 ... There are a few players that have a similar break, the willingness to practice the break and the skills to get out consistently.

I think it was in the SVB/Archer podcast, Johnny said that Shane had motivated him and prior to the TAR match the thing he really practiced was the break. He also mentioned that he really never practiced the break “all that much”before (surprising)... but he knew that if he could just come close to Shane’s break he would have a chance in the TAR event. I think the primary factors in that match was the tighter table and no one had a clear breaking advantage. As an aside if you are an aspiring professional pool player viewing of the Podcasts with Johnny are a must watch on how a professional acts.

In no particular order the 10-ball players with a break and the skills (that I am familiar with) are Dennis O., Busty, Shane, Alex, and Archer. I would put Dennis on top of the pile right now.

2013 10 Ball Events
Bigfoot DCC 10 – Ball: Dennis Orcollo

2012
Tunica 10 Ball – Alex (Alex vs Archer(?) I think)
US Open 10 Ball – Dennis (I believe he beat Busty in the finals)
Hard Times 10 Ball – Dennis (I believe he beat Shane in the finals)
DCC 10 Ball – Busty

2011
US Open 10 Ball --- Shane
DCC 10 – Rodney
Hard times -- Alex (?)
Predator international 10 Ball – Dennis
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Also, Bustie, Orcollo, and Archer all beat SVB in TAR 10 ball match ups last year. He is not unbeatable at 10 ball
 
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