Is there a 8/9ft slate simple skirted quality table?

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Impact Blue

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...say that 10x fast. lol

I'm looking to invest in a table that has a similar design as below:



Something that I could have shimmed with pro cut pockets and aftermarket rails/bumpers, so the playing surface is a lot like a brunswick/diamond/gabriels, sans the cost.

Does such a thing exist? is this possible? I'm just looking for simple construction, easily moved and assembled with few parts, and no fancy schmancy return system that'll end up breaking on me.

What are your thoughts?...happy holidays!
 
Impact Blue said:
...say that 10x fast. lol

I'm looking to invest in a table that has a similar design as below:



Something that I could have shimmed with pro cut pockets and aftermarket rails/bumpers, so the playing surface is a lot like a brunswick/diamond/gabriels, sans the cost.

Does such a thing exist? is this possible? I'm just looking for simple construction, easily moved and assembled with few parts, and no fancy schmancy return system that'll end up breaking on me.

What are your thoughts?...happy holidays!
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No............
 
sdbilliards said:
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Agreed. I think you're asking too much. Like posting a picture of a Yugo and saying you want something that costs about as much as this, but will haul 2 tons of cargo, that you could tune up to make its top speed around 180 MPH. Just ain't going to happen. Sorry.
 
Maybe I was too vague with my description. Sorry about that.

Really what I am looking for is a simply constructed table that uses a slate playing surface. It never made sense to me to have the skirts fall so low as to cover the pockets. Like the example above, which I found to use MDF...not good. Looking at the assembly on the GC series seems to have at least 300/400lbs of just...extra weight. I think the construction, beyond the slate, could be simplified without sacrificing playability.

I was watching a video of an Australian tournament with a room filled with these types of tables. Throw on a good rail surface, K66/Artemis cushions and tight pockets on nets seems like all I'd need, now want.
 
Impact Blue said:
...say that 10x fast. lol

I'm looking to invest in a table that has a similar design as below:



Something that I could have shimmed with pro cut pockets and aftermarket rails/bumpers, so the playing surface is a lot like a brunswick/diamond/gabriels, sans the cost.

Does such a thing exist? is this possible? I'm just looking for simple construction, easily moved and assembled with few parts, and no fancy schmancy return system that'll end up breaking on me.

What are your thoughts?...happy holidays!
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About as simple as you can get that will play well, not does it play like a Diamond, it is a Diamond!

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-Kyle
 
Impact Blue said:
Maybe I was too vague with my description. Sorry about that.

Really what I am looking for is a simply constructed table that uses a slate playing surface. It never made sense to me to have the skirts fall so low as to cover the pockets. Like the example above, which I found to use MDF...not good. Looking at the assembly on the GC series seems to have at least 300/400lbs of just...extra weight. I think the construction, beyond the slate, could be simplified without sacrificing playability.

I was watching a video of an Australian tournament with a room filled with these types of tables. Throw on a good rail surface, K66/Artemis cushions and tight pockets on nets seems like all I'd need, now want.
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Hi guys, I've been reading this forum for a few months now and finally got authorized so I can post. I'm a fairly new table mechanic. I've done a few tables and they turned out great thanks to what I've read on this forum and what the guy that's training me has taught me. Glen has also given me a lot of great info.

From what I understand, the extra weight is an added attribute for a better playing table. Table weight adds to the playability of the rails when the rails are bolted to the slate. The weight of the table gives the rails a more solid bounce and the table is less likely to move when you lean against it. The more solid and heavy the table is the higher the probability that it will play better.

If you disagree please correct me.
 
Welcome to the forum BnB! You are correct! Weight is a vital component of
a well made pool table. In a commercial enviroment for which tables like the gold crown and diamond were designed for there is no such thing as too much weight!!! I have seen players pick up tabels in pool rooms!

Impact blue, you are correct aprons really are not doing anything but hiding the frame component or the slate on the table. But they themselves really do not add that much weight, certainly not even a 100lbs. There are simpler designs of tables with fewer components but i would not describe them as easier to assemble. The real work is involved with covering rails,leveling and seeming slates,etc,which all quality tables will
require something similiar.
 
Also consider that the table frame/legs needs to support roughly 400 lbs or more of slate. Something with toothpick legs as pictured by OP isn't going to cut it. Besides, pool tables aren't designed to be "easily" moved.
 
Impact Blue said:
...say that 10x fast. lol

I'm looking to invest in a table that has a similar design as below:



Something that I could have shimmed with pro cut pockets and aftermarket rails/bumpers, so the playing surface is a lot like a brunswick/diamond/gabriels, sans the cost.

Does such a thing exist? is this possible? I'm just looking for simple construction, easily moved and assembled with few parts, and no fancy schmancy return system that'll end up breaking on me.

What are your thoughts?...happy holidays!
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I think Lowes sells that kit:D
 
I'm going to be the contrarian here, and say that it is possible to build such a table for a few hundred dollars.

If you have built "substantial" things in the past without them falling down, and have the skill to mill your own rails, this could be a good project for you.

I built a low-profile table by building a low profile frame. Instead of huge wood beams, use 1/8" thick 2x2 square steel tubing.

There are some tables like this on the market. Very expensive, but need not be becaude steel is cheaper than wood.

If you have some cash, check these tables out:
http://www.fusiontables.com/en/

Shows the advantage of metal framing.
 
Dead Crab said:
I'm going to be the contrarian here, and say that it is possible to build such a table for a few hundred dollars.

If you have built "substantial" things in the past without them falling down, and have the skill to mill your own rails, this could be a good project for you.

I built a low-profile table by building a low profile frame. Instead of huge wood beams, use 1/8" thick 2x2 square steel tubing.

There are some tables like this on the market. Very expensive, but need not be becaude steel is cheaper than wood.

If you have some cash, check these tables out:
http://www.fusiontables.com/en/

Shows the advantage of metal framing.
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Interesting table - made by/for Aramith with a play area of 38 X 76 on 3/4 slate precovered with Velocity cloth. I'll pass.
 
They are basically tables made for apartment dwellers. However, it does demonstrate that metal framed tables can be minimalist, and still hold slate. With steel 2x2's, you could have a table in your garage and park your car on it at night. Why manufacturers still build civil war boats is beyond me.
 
Dead Crab said:
They are basically tables made for apartment dwellers. However, it does demonstrate that metal framed tables can be minimalist, and still hold slate. With steel 2x2's, you could have a table in your garage and park your car on it at night. Why manufacturers still build civil war boats is beyond me.
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Tradition.
 
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