Is there a diamond aiming system?

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Shaky1

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What I mean is, say a ball is on the foot spot, it is 2 diamond up from the corner pocket. It is also 2 diamonds out from the rail.
Is there a way to calculate the fraction of eclipse that you need for this angle?
If it's on the head spot and you want to put it in the same pocket as before, it would be 2 diamonds out and 6 diamonds long.
Is there a ballpark fraction? :smile:
You would need to know the position of the cue ball and it's diamond location as well to determine the actual fraction of cut.
I think this could be handy when you cannot see the pocket on some cuts?
 
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Shaky1 said:
What I mean is, say a ball is on the foot spot, it is 2 diamond up from the corner pocket. It is also 2 diamonds out from the rail.
Is there a way to calculate the fraction of eclipse that you need for this angle?
If it's on the head spot and you want to put it in the same pocket as before, it would be 2 diamonds out and 6 diamonds long.
Is there a ballpark fraction? :smile:
You would need to know the position of the cue ball and it's diamond location as well to determine the actual fraction of cut.
I think this could be handy when you cannot see the pocket on some cuts?
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Absolutely,

Get Jimmy Reid's "Almost All I Know". He goes into great detail with finding the QB and OB locations on the table with demonstrations.

John
 
I teach players to measure the shot..........

Shaky1 said:
What I mean is, say a ball is on the foot spot, it is 2 diamond up from the corner pocket. It is also 2 diamonds out from the rail.
Is there a way to calculate the fraction of eclipse that you need for this angle?
If it's on the head spot and you want to put it in the same pocket as before, it would be 2 diamonds out and 6 diamonds long.
Is there a ballpark fraction? :smile:
You would need to know the position of the cue ball and it's diamond location as well to determine the actual fraction of cut.
I think this could be handy when you cannot see the pocket on some cuts?
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Hi there Shaky1,

I teach players how to measure any shot on the table so you know exactly how much of the ball to hit. There is a whole chapter teaching this in the Perfect Aim video. It's so simple to learn once you see it.I have never seen anyone teaching this. In fact I've never seen it anywhere and I keep looking.

Your right though. When you know exactly how much of the ball you are going to hit it is huge. Especially when you have to shoot that one shot for all the bananas.

I almost always measure that one. More info the better..............
 
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genomachino said:
Hi there Shaky1,

I teach players how to measure any shot on the table so you know exactly how much of the ball to hit. There is a whole chapter teaching this in the Perfect Aim video. It's so simple to learn once you see it.I have never seen anyone teaching this. In fact I've never seen it anywhere and I keep looking.

Your right though. When you know exactly how much of the ball you are going to hit it is huge. Especially when you have to shoot that one shot for all the bananas.

I almost always measure that one. More info the better..............
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Genius I don't remember that in my video. Is there a newer version?

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Shaky1 said:
What I mean is, say a ball is on the foot spot, it is 2 diamond up from the corner pocket. It is also 2 diamonds out from the rail.
Is there a way to calculate the fraction of eclipse that you need for this angle?
If it's on the head spot and you want to put it in the same pocket as before, it would be 2 diamonds out and 6 diamonds long.
Is there a ballpark fraction? :smile:
You would need to know the position of the cue ball and it's diamond location as well to determine the actual fraction of cut.
I think this could be handy when you cannot see the pocket on some cuts?
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Do a search for a PDF by Diamond Dave Thayer. It's a fractional aiming system based on using the diamonds to determine where to hit the object ball. Based on my personal experience playing around with it I found there were some holes in it but I really liked the logic behind the system.
 
Shaky1 said:
What I mean is, say a ball is on the foot spot, it is 2 diamond up from the corner pocket. It is also 2 diamonds out from the rail.
Is there a way to calculate the fraction of eclipse that you need for this angle?
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Yes, but you'd need to have a spreadsheet with you at the table. With the appropriate trig formulas you could enter the diamond measurements from CB to OB and from OB to pocket (defining two triangles) and the answer would pop out.

However, I doubt that the math could be reduced to an estimate you could do in your head - not in my head, anyway.

pj
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Yes there is a diamond aiming system that was described in some detail in the main forum not too long ago.

It required (as I recall) two angle estimations based on the CB and OB diamond locations relative to the target pocket. It then required two additional subtractions/additions.

I found it overly complicated, but it can be done. I questioned it's robustness relative to estimations in diamond positions.
 
If it's too complicated, forget it. To me it would have to be pretty quick.
That is just how I am. I don't like taking all day to figure something out.
It takes me out of stroke.
 
genomachino said:
Hi there Shaky1,

I teach players how to measure any shot on the table so you know exactly how much of the ball to hit. There is a whole chapter teaching this in the Perfect Aim video. It's so simple to learn once you see it.I have never seen anyone teaching this. In fact I've never seen it anywhere and I keep looking.

Your right though. When you know exactly how much of the ball you are going to hit it is huge. Especially when you have to shoot that one shot for all the bananas.

I almost always measure that one. More info the better..............
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Hi Geno! I'm waiting to get my table recovered/ rerailed.
Once I recover from the recover I will be calling you for the vid. :grin:
Well, I'm also waiting to see if my left eye is going to improve any more after the Lasic.
It has been 2 weeks. Right eye was good the next day. The left one is blurry past about 5 feet. I might have to go back again. :(
 
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The healing process takes a little time, and in due course both eyes will even out. (At least that was my experience)

BTW be sure to use the eyedrops. Your vision will change if the eyes are dry.


Shaky1 said:
Hi Geno! I'm waiting to get my table recovered/ rerailed.
Once I recover from the recover I will be calling you for the vid. :grin:
Well, I'm also waiting to see if my left eye is going to improve any more after the Lasic.
It has been 2 weeks. Right eye was good the next day. The left one is blurry past about 5 feet. I might have to go back again. :(
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I think diamonds are under used by most players. I do not know of a diamond aiming system. How do you think one would work would u aim at the rails shooting thru the object ball? I do not belive that would be so great especially on thin cuts with balls near the rail.
 
Shaky1 said:
What I mean is, say a ball is on the foot spot, it is 2 diamond up from the corner pocket. It is also 2 diamonds out from the rail.
Is there a way to calculate the fraction of eclipse that you need for this angle?
If it's on the head spot and you want to put it in the same pocket as before, it would be 2 diamonds out and 6 diamonds long.
Is there a ballpark fraction? :smile:
You would need to know the position of the cue ball and it's diamond location as well to determine the actual fraction of cut.
I think this could be handy when you cannot see the pocket on some cuts?
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There is a diamond system. No calculation needed. Takes you about 2-3seconds to get the aiming point. It works very well with shot that are almost full ball to sligthly over half ball.

I am still working on shot that are slightly over half ball to thin cut.
 
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