I agree. The other thread on collecting quality threads would help with getting people to add to good threads rather than start a new one.
Is this Main Forum cluttered by threads
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I agree. The other thread on collecting quality threads would help with getting people to add to good threads rather than start a new one.
Good post. It pretty much sums up my perspective also. :thumbup:
To the OP - Incase u haven't noticed traffic on AZ has been WAY DOWN! So any traffic is good traffic. If u love AZ the way we do STFU! seriously
If a topic is a bad topic it will run its course off the main page if it holds its because it's getting responses , the forum is the teacher ,,,
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im also referring to the "sub-threads" that have no potential in developing into a healthy discussion. i'll give an example. 2 years ago there was a U.S. Open thread that had more than 10 pages. during the time that the tournament was in progress, there were threads like "(this player's) cue at the US Open" or "US Open streaming question" or "US Open payouts". same thing happened during last year's open as well as the W9B.
i mean, cant people just ask it on the "official" thread instead of creating a new one?
All the other Forums (or sub-forums) tend to be more subject specific and consequently, the Main Forum becomes the all in one topics location........it's the place where the most number of views is likely to occur.
So as the biggest showcase for new threads covering the largest variety of topics, sort of an omnibus location for communicating with other Azers, the Main Forum sees the biggest array of diverse subjects. It's needed and so it really does makes sense.
Matt B.
So as the biggest showcase for new threads covering the largest variety of topics, sort of an omnibus location for communicating with other Azers, the Main Forum sees the biggest array of diverse subjects. It's needed and so it really does makes sense.
Matt B.
IMHO the worst thing you can do is create numerous sub-forums. No one in their right mind is going to jump from sub-forum to sub-forum just to see all the posts that are pool-related, i.e. would have been in a Main Forum. That takes way too much effort. (as evidence, notice all the dead sub-forums for 14.1, Snooker, Carom, etc., while there are plenty of threads about those in the Main Forum; if they weren't in the Main Forum I'd never see them...I enjoy seeing them, but I'm not going to go out of my way to view them(.
It's not like we have to read every thread just to get to the next one. Scan to see the ones of interest to you.
Besides, everyone is going to have their own definition of "Main" material.
Regarding sub-threads: I prefer them. If an "official" tournament thread runs about 10 pages, imagine what it would be if other interesting sub-threads were require to be in the official thread...it would be 50 pages long. I prefer separate threads for "My pictures at the US Open", "My SBE Experience", "Want to share a ride to Turning Stone?", and so on.
It's not like we have to read every thread just to get to the next one. Scan to see the ones of interest to you.
Besides, everyone is going to have their own definition of "Main" material.
Regarding sub-threads: I prefer them. If an "official" tournament thread runs about 10 pages, imagine what it would be if other interesting sub-threads were require to be in the official thread...it would be 50 pages long. I prefer separate threads for "My pictures at the US Open", "My SBE Experience", "Want to share a ride to Turning Stone?", and so on.
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cloth, cue builder. chalk. tip. light. table, shaft, joint pin thread - size, wood to use in a cue, practice video, instructor, glove, chalk holder, ferrule material, joint material, etc etc etc
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has sent me to npr
cloth, cue builder. chalk. tip. light. table, shaft, joint pin thread - size, wood to use in a cue, practice video, instructor, glove, chalk holder, ferrule material, joint material, etc etc etc
whats the best
whats the best
whats the best
has sent me to npr
Even the opening page bugs me, not just here but on most boards I visit. I've learned to not notice them, as I'm sure most others have, so they hardly serve a real function. Once they're up there, it's a pretty dicey affair to remove some of them.
Best bet is to think long and hard if one is really needed. The way it is right now, you start a thread and if it ain't about somebody getting ripped off in a cue deal or some pro supposedly dumping, it ends up on page 4 by the end of the day.
Maybe it's just Facebook diluting AZB Main Forum
I have a theory about why there are so many sub-forums and it is this:
A few people attempted to exert power and control over AZ Billiards by complaining that certain subject matter belonged in its own sub-forum.
Essentially, they didn't like reading about particular subjects because they were emotionally and negatively tied to the subject matter but looked like jerks when they posted in those threads.
As time went on, the management of AZB got tired of the whining babies demanding that sub-forums be implemented for various subject matter. Others seeing how easy it was to control what was said and posted in the Main Forum joined in the sport of control of the Main Forum and they pretty much succeeded. Now there are so many sub-forums that you would need a dozen clones to scan through them with you to keep up.
Before it was easy to see the threads in the Main Foru that you wanted to post in. Now many of those threads have been sent off to never-never-land never to be seen again by those who frequent the Main Forum (which is the majority of the posters on AZB).
Oh well, at least the moderators finally muzzled some of the haters.
Who knows, maybe the management will see fit to change some of the sub-forums back to the Main Forum?
JoeyA
I have a theory about why there are so many sub-forums and it is this:
A few people attempted to exert power and control over AZ Billiards by complaining that certain subject matter belonged in its own sub-forum.
Essentially, they didn't like reading about particular subjects because they were emotionally and negatively tied to the subject matter but looked like jerks when they posted in those threads.
As time went on, the management of AZB got tired of the whining babies demanding that sub-forums be implemented for various subject matter. Others seeing how easy it was to control what was said and posted in the Main Forum joined in the sport of control of the Main Forum and they pretty much succeeded. Now there are so many sub-forums that you would need a dozen clones to scan through them with you to keep up.
Before it was easy to see the threads in the Main Foru that you wanted to post in. Now many of those threads have been sent off to never-never-land never to be seen again by those who frequent the Main Forum (which is the majority of the posters on AZB).
Oh well, at least the moderators finally muzzled some of the haters.
Who knows, maybe the management will see fit to change some of the sub-forums back to the Main Forum?
JoeyA
Dilution of the Forums
Ive read the posts and I pretty much agree with JoeyA's posts. I've noted a dilution in the quality of debate because of so many subforms.
I used to love to come here to see what was being debated and one day it was all gone.
I was thrilled to see the thread about whether or not you look at the object ball last or the cue ball last. It made me think...how do I really do that so today I went to the pool room and found out. I also found out I wont be changing anything I do in that department.
Had this been relegated to the aiming sub forum there would not been any debate. It wasnt about aiming and did not deserve banishment. It was about Pool and Pool is what we are hear to talk about.
It was the first lively debate I had seen here in quite some time and I still have not read all of the posts., and its only one thread. If you dont want to read then dont, just skip over and its a done deal.
Ive read the posts and I pretty much agree with JoeyA's posts. I've noted a dilution in the quality of debate because of so many subforms.
I used to love to come here to see what was being debated and one day it was all gone.
I was thrilled to see the thread about whether or not you look at the object ball last or the cue ball last. It made me think...how do I really do that so today I went to the pool room and found out. I also found out I wont be changing anything I do in that department.
Had this been relegated to the aiming sub forum there would not been any debate. It wasnt about aiming and did not deserve banishment. It was about Pool and Pool is what we are hear to talk about.
It was the first lively debate I had seen here in quite some time and I still have not read all of the posts., and its only one thread. If you dont want to read then dont, just skip over and its a done deal.
Tags, feeds, pages
Actually there is tourney page for each tourney and those pages should be linked to forums so members can start threads/ posts and they can appear on tourney page. Players page can also have such threads related yo player appear.
Tags can be used and cloud tags section will show which topics are most popular . There will be no such thing as Main forum cos Main Forum will just be a fees of top popular topics so when some clicks a thread on Main forum they will be directed to the sub forum, tourney page or player page.
Actually there is tourney page for each tourney and those pages should be linked to forums so members can start threads/ posts and they can appear on tourney page. Players page can also have such threads related yo player appear.
Tags can be used and cloud tags section will show which topics are most popular . There will be no such thing as Main forum cos Main Forum will just be a fees of top popular topics so when some clicks a thread on Main forum they will be directed to the sub forum, tourney page or player page.
Can't blame you if you prefer quantity over quality traffic. Muahahaha
The Facebook effect!
I do think that there is a Facebook type effect going on here. Now I am new to the Facebook thing and don't do it well but people who dont really know me that I have friended because of Pool will hail me when Im online and talk to me and I think that is cool.
People want to talk about Pool! I think its awesome!
I see Pool as a great big Club and as a Club we should want to talk, get together and play pool and promote the things that makes the game more Popular.
Just the other day I went to a gathering of some AZ folks in Greensboro NC at Breakers and it was great. We shook some hands, played some Scotch Doubles 9- ball rotated the losers out and kept it going until it was over and everyone either did dinner or headed home because of Ice on the Roads.
That to me is the best part about Pool and there needs to be a lot more of it because its positive.
We have spent a long time idolizing parts of the game that make it not so Public Friendly and thats cool if you like to get down like that but at this point in my life its about helping some people play better and helping them to learn to love the game and more importantly .......The Culture of the Greatest Game on Earth...that people can gather around!
I do think that there is a Facebook type effect going on here. Now I am new to the Facebook thing and don't do it well but people who dont really know me that I have friended because of Pool will hail me when Im online and talk to me and I think that is cool.
People want to talk about Pool! I think its awesome!
I see Pool as a great big Club and as a Club we should want to talk, get together and play pool and promote the things that makes the game more Popular.
Just the other day I went to a gathering of some AZ folks in Greensboro NC at Breakers and it was great. We shook some hands, played some Scotch Doubles 9- ball rotated the losers out and kept it going until it was over and everyone either did dinner or headed home because of Ice on the Roads.
That to me is the best part about Pool and there needs to be a lot more of it because its positive.
We have spent a long time idolizing parts of the game that make it not so Public Friendly and thats cool if you like to get down like that but at this point in my life its about helping some people play better and helping them to learn to love the game and more importantly .......The Culture of the Greatest Game on Earth...that people can gather around!
Yes, you would think that the management would want more reading and more responses. Unfortunately, they listened to the wailing of those who must have their way or they will stamp their feet and cry.
The sub-forums provide just the opposite.
JoeyA
