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A little of everything. If I get it too hot, I get bubbles in the material. I add heat to the angle aluminum, then to the plastic, put them into the press and heat the sandwich. I'm doing it all by feel. I've also been adjusting the PSI. It is quite the dance...

Looks darn near there!

Once you get it down I bet you can have a repeatable process. The development is labor intensive but once you are done you will be the only guy we know that can do it.

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Looks pretty nice!

I take it that the appropriate colors were not available in square or thick flat stock to do recuts.

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So, I figured out how to make my process (somewhat) repeatable. I made a full set, glued them up, and made an arbitrary angled cut to see what it looks like. This is the end where I noticed imperfections (wavy/glue lines) but they will be cut away. I also put the original point in as a reference.

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Funny you should ask. I was working on it this morning. I still need to bend one more set then I'll get brave enough to glue them into the forearm and there are still issues with that process with the way the bottom of the points inside of the forearm. I'll need to trim them so there is enough room.
 
Cool! :smile::smile::smile:

Exciting!

Yeah...I am a geek...:embarrassed2:


In the thread from 2013 the issue of adhesives was brought up. You had mentioned you had seen some of the old ones come apart.

I am assuming you would use a modern material specific adhesive for the veneer stack, something that bonds vinyl. AFAIK modern vinyl adhesives essentially "weld" the material together, which should lead to an excellent joining of the vinyl layers.

The issue then becomes creating a good bond between the vinyl and the wood. Which is something I could not even begin to make any assumptions about, except I think that would be the challenge for choosing the correct adhesive.


I assume some of the challenges you face are likely due to it being a restoration, like what you are talking about at the bottom of the points. You don't get the luxury of building the splice then turning it down to final dimensions. The materials are already at final dimension when you start so you have to work within those constraints. I assume that does make it more challenging in the assembly.


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I assume some of the challenges you face are likely due to it being a restoration, like what you are talking about at the bottom of the points. You don't get the luxury of building the splice then turning it down to final dimensions. The materials are already at final dimension when you start so you have to work within those constraints. I assume that does make it more challenging in the assembly.

I actually explain this quite often. It is much easier to start from scratch than it is to repair. There are unique challenges which is what I love about it.
 
I actually explain this quite often. It is much easier to start from scratch than it is to repair. There are unique challenges which is what I love about it.

I think I can understand that, and it is as I assumed.

After looking at the pics of your work in the past I can see the fascination with the restoration work challenges. It is quite admirable.

I look forward to seeing more, particularly the results of the work you post in this thread.

You seem to be a specialist in unscrambling an egg. No small task.

Unscrambling an egg: Some say it can't be done. I beg to differ. It is only a matter of effort, dedication, time, materials, and know-how. :thumbup:





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Hey Ryan...hate to bug you but I am curious if there is anything more on this. :smile:





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I'm at the point where it all needs to be glued up and I'm dragging my feet. Once you apply glue, you are committed. I need to be in the right frame of mind because I have one shot at it.
 
Thanks for the update. By no means do I wish to rush you or mess with your process.

Perhaps your project shows us how much went into the original development of this type of veneer.


I wish you the best in finding your Zen moment to move forward. :thumbup:






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Failure after failure. I finally got the points glued into the forearm and attempted to turn them. The plastic material chips out and the glue isn't holding. Back to the drawing board...
 
Failure after failure. I finally got the points glued into the forearm and attempted to turn them. The plastic material chips out and the glue isn't holding. Back to the drawing board...

Tool post grinder maybe ? Warm the piece up first ? Just thoughts off the top of my flat head.

Dave
 
Tool post grinder maybe ? Warm the piece up first ? Just thoughts off the top of my flat head.

Dave

If the glue would hold, I wouldn't have any issues turning it. I've tried every glue I have in stock. Well, except CA but it would be near impossible to glue this much area without it kicking before I got it positioned. :mad:
 
Just a thought from the "cheap seats" but...

Have you tried plastics specific adhesives? Like you get for joining plumbing pipes? I believe that stuff "welds" the plastic. Maybe something like that?



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