Why would you play the tournament if you don't agree with how the promoter does his business?
What is their rational for rating you the same as this other player?
If you know that is how they rate a higher player why not sign up as a B?
Issues with using ratings incorrectly.
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What is their rational for rating you the same as this other player?
If you know that is how they rate a higher player why not sign up as a B?
Are you the only person who feels they are being disadvantaged by this situation?
I would think if it was so unfair no one would play or their turnouts would be very small which would make playing for whatever the prize money is pointless.
Things are not adding up to me.
I would think if it was so unfair no one would play or their turnouts would be very small which would make playing for whatever the prize money is pointless.
Things are not adding up to me.
If I knew what the local players are, I would sign up as whoever is closest to my skill that I see shoot. I enter tournaments in different states when traveling and have no idea who is who and what the guy running it thinks a "B" is. I know the local players yes, but I don't always play in the same 3-4 places.
I am guessing this was addressed to me, if I knew that the local B is an A, then I would just tell them I am a C compared to them. But when I go up to the guy and tell them I'm a B+, but everyone else there thinks that a B shoots like an A level player, then yes I get screwed over as I face some B player that runs 3 racks on me. Really, it's more that I just don't see how their logic works in making the ratings bunch up on one side or the other, usually over the actual skill. Ratings should be what the player can do at the table, not just how good they are compared to someone else, and you need some logical steps between the ratings. If the ratings were FEDCBA with an A being a pro, then sure a C player can be a pretty good shooter. But it's not, it's DCBA with the Pro and lower level Pro being over the A ratings, in that scale, you can't have a C or a B be a very good payer without making the D and A levels incorrect.
I understand those complaints. I play all over and just make peace with whatever the director says.
Fargo is the closest thing we have to an international system. If they choose to go by some house rules, I just suck it up or don't play.
Frustrating for sure.
If I'm traveling and the only tournament near me is on terrible equipment or some version of "bar rules" I do my best to make peace with it before I enter.
I bolded the key to my whole problem with this. You're saying their "B" is an "A". He's only an "A" by your standards. There has never been a national consensus on what defines an "A, B, C, D" etc. Sometimes other TD's interpretations of ratings will benefit you and sometimes they won't.
I have never seen a local rating be lower than what I thought it should be. It's always higher. A B player in many places is a guy that can run one rack a set more or less all the time, I have never in over 30 years run into a place where their B players are shooting like C payers and taking 3 turns to finish a rack.
Even the great Efren was once Cesar.
If you're looking for fair, they are usually held in August.
If you're looking for fair, they are usually held in August.
CPA/APA handicaps are weak at the top. I'm a 700+ Fargo CPA/APA 7/9 and there are 7's in 8 ball that are in the 400 Fargo range. I play them even and they'll never win a game against me. There should be a higher cap in CPA/APA or some kind of special 7/9 or something.
On the flip side if I were to play Fedor Gorst in CPA he would be a CPA/APA 7/9, we play even and I'd probably get my ass handed too me lol. Just an exaggeration...of course guys like Fedor are not allowed to play.
On the flip side if I were to play Fedor Gorst in CPA he would be a CPA/APA 7/9, we play even and I'd probably get my ass handed too me lol. Just an exaggeration...of course guys like Fedor are not allowed to play.
This is why using Fargo is a better option than the ABCD rankings. It removes the subjective decision on where to rate someone and allows for an objective decision, no opinions involved.
Well, but.... If they moved you to a 15 -- where you should be -- There's no way for you to be on a team. I think the system was not designed for the high end players. I thought they had "Masters" leagues or some such.
Again, those are your criteria for specific letter grades.
lol... don't get your hopes up.
Yep, but unless their ratings can stand the test of logic better than how I see them, they are wrong, and I am right LOL
Scientific method. If one idea fits and can be followed the same way by others, it's the correct one. All the other ratings I can point out flaws in, aside from the fact that "it's just how it is" for the other views of the ratings, they don't stand up to scrutiny. They either need more letters to fit the rating or adding in a bunch of ++++ at the end of theirs, clumsy.
There is not a rational justification in the entirety of human existence that applies to a 1 point difference in skill rating leading to any kind of weight or discrimination in a system that assigns 3 number rating labels. a 601 is not functionally better than a 600.
No argument with that.
I'm fairly new to the CPA league thing. Only have 6 matches total in. There is a Masters division as well, I play that too. It's only once a month anyway. I still enjoy playing league once a week. I also have never been to Vegas before so would like to experience that barbox heaven at least once.
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