It's a MIRACLE!

JoeyA

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This thread is about you getting paid when you just knew in your heart of hearts that getting paid is something that most likely, wasn't going to happen.

NOSTROKE's post about getting paid reminded me of this story I tell periodically. If you've heard it on the forum, my bad.

San Francisco Charlie was a retired police officer, a black man, who lived in Belize, South America but who frequented the infamous Sport Palace of New Orleans.

Charlie LOVED gambling at one pocket and while he was never played top speed, he was a formidable opponent and what made him stand out from most everyone else was HE ALWAYS HAD MONEY to gamble with. Charlie and I played one pocket almost every time he visited New Orleans which was probably a couple of times a year.

I had gambled with Charlie off and one for a couple of years and this particular time, we were playing for $30 a game. Charlie was notorious for losing all of his cash. While Charlie had beaten me for the dough on occasion, I always felt like even though it was a close game, I could win and more often than not, I did. I won all of the dough Charlie had with him which was maybe two or three hundred dollars. Charlie paid me all except for $60 and he ASKED me if it would be all right for him to pay me at a later date. I was so happy that I had made a good score (80's) in my early career of one pocket, I said "SURE", knowing deep down that I would most likely never see that $60. Charlie would disappear for months at a time and sometimes years and I had not heard from Charlie for a few months, nor did anyone else.

One day, Earl Heisler, the owner of "THE PALACE" walked up to me and handed me three twenties and said Charlie had SENT the money to him and that Charlie had asked for Earl to make sure I got the $60. At the time I was so blown-away, I could hardly speak. Charlie could easily had stiffed me permanently but apparently it just wasn't his way. I've had people pay me back debts a little here and a little there and once in a blue moon, all at one time but I have never had anyone pay back a debt from another country, let alone a pool player. Charlie may have passed away by now but he was and will always be one of the most positive examples of a gambling pool enthusiast that ever passed through my life. I'll never forget his honesty, his gamble or his idiosyncracies.

One of his idiosyncracies was the eight ball. We all knew Charlie HATED the eight ball and if a ball had to be spotted and the eight ball was in the pocket, every one of us would dig in the pocket like mining drillers until we put our hands on and pulled out the eight ball to be spotted. Almost ALWAYS, Charlie would miss the eight ball spot shot. Put up any other ball and it fell. The eight ball was a self-imposed curse for Charlie but he never complained about our shrewd and mean-spirited ways. I guess I am a little embarassed about my actions but it is how I learned to gamble, taking every edge I could get.

Speaking of edges, if the GingerBread Man hasn't been playing any pool lately, I am ready for some hundred dollar one pocket. :D
 
Good story. It pretty much sums up why I no longer gamble at pool (or anything else for that matter). The % chance of not collecting your $ is just too high to make it worth my while, IMO.

It is a good tale of character though. Pool (and the world) need more of stand up chaps like this. Thanks for sharing.
 
Tommy Spencer did the same after his father passed yrs ago. I had forgotten about the money and while dropping him off at hm in Chicago he told me to wait, and he paid up. He and I and Joey Gold battled many times during our youth.
 
You can only blame yourself if you get stiffed. I started gambling at pool
in 1959 when I was 13. The last time I got stiffed was in 1960. Post the money- how simple can it be!!
 
Great story, Joey. The bit about spotting the 8 ball reminded me of something funny that happen while playing an old player for practice:

When I moved to Fort Collins I got to know an old player that used to play pool/1-pocket really well, but was known for trying to help his cause (taking balls from his opponent's pocket, spotting opponent's ball when scratching, on and on, you get the picture). He would never gamble or play with me, but one day we were practicing by ourselves so decided to play. He had a lead and scratched. He dug through the corner pocket of balls, then through the side pocket until he found the 6 ball to spot. Of course the 6 ball is one of the hardest balls to see, but you know that. So I spoke up w/a smile on my face and said: "really? you go through all that trouble for split time?" He said: "you gotta practice that, too." :thumbup::thumbup::D

I'm still laughing at that one.

Again, nice story. Sorry I diverted your point. But now I'm laughing all over again.

Dave
 
Great story, Joey. The bit about spotting the 8 ball reminded me of something funny that happen while playing an old player for practice:

When I moved to Fort Collins I got to know an old player that used to play pool/1-pocket really well, but was known for trying to help his cause (taking balls from his opponent's pocket, spotting opponent's ball when scratching, on and on, you get the picture). He would never gamble or play with me, but one day we were practicing by ourselves so decided to play. He had a lead and scratched. He dug through the corner pocket of balls, then through the side pocket until he found the 6 ball to spot. Of course the 6 ball is one of the hardest balls to see, but you know that. So I spoke up w/a smile on my face and said: "really? you go through all that trouble for split time?" He said: "you gotta practice that, too." :thumbup::thumbup::D

I'm still laughing at that one.

Again, nice story. Sorry I diverted your point. But now I'm laughing all over again.

Dave

Nice Dave. I like his answer.
 
Good story

That was a good story Joey. Getting paid like that only happens about once in a lifetime, which means that you should probaly make your opponents post up from now on.

Oh, good luck with the Gingerbread Man, I hear he's hard to beat.....

Mike
 
Tommy Spencer did the same after his father passed yrs ago. I had forgotten about the money and while dropping him off at hm in Chicago he told me to wait, and he paid up. He and I and Joey Gold battled many times during our youth.

is that the Tom Spencer that also won the Denver open around 1983? Man he played good in that tournament.
I was knocked out bu some very tall arrogant kid from Chicago. What p**** he was too. My very first tournament on a big table and got 5-6th and tickeled to get it. The year of the big freeze. LOL
 
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