He'd still beat everyone in the room with a stick off the wall, which is my point.
"It's the Indian, not the arrow" the most nonsense I've ever heard.....
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Once took a two hour lesson from Earl Strickland.
You sound like him.
He told me that when he practices at tournaments all of the pros sit and watch him.
He plays in poolrooms H, not bars, on 9 footers.
Pick One.
You are allowed ONLY ONE.
Skill & PoolIQ of Efren Reyes the Magician?
Or One of his Cues?
You are allowed ONLY ONE.
Skill & PoolIQ of Efren Reyes the Magician?
Or One of his Cues?
Anybody who wants to improve or play their best cares about equipment
Hogan made sure his clubs matched. Really matched. He tinkered with equipment. He put every golf ball in a tub with epsom salts and floated them to weed out unbalanced balls. I think he used a size ring too. When Macgregor wanted him to use their ball and showed him testing with an Iron Byron he told the executives to enter the *@#$*#$ machine in the US Open. When he started his equipment company he scrapped the first year’s production because it didn’t meet his standards. And yeah, the money was a concern. He got mad at an amateur at the Masters with mismatched clubs and sent him Hogans I think.
So yeah, Hogan could play very well with mediocre or bad clubs. But he practiced too hard to settle for that. As do many others. Why would you work hard and not give a rip about your equipment?
It’s a false choice. Practice AND get your equipment to a level you want it. Yes there is a point where more $ isn’t going to matter. Yes, some people have smaller budgets than others. But it makes a lot of sense to pay attention to equipment if you practice.
And a nice thing about golf is there are fewer equipment knockers. It is good for the industry that 18 handicappers don’t get a ration of crap if they buy the latest driver or putter.
And I hate to say it given how much I like him as a player. IMO Nicklaus would have been better with a different ball. Google it if interested.
And Tiger could take 3 or 4 “identical” drivers from the company and pick the heavy one. Maybe a gram or two difference. Let’s take a golfer with decent practice habits to examine your point. Hogan.
Hogan made sure his clubs matched. Really matched. He tinkered with equipment. He put every golf ball in a tub with epsom salts and floated them to weed out unbalanced balls. I think he used a size ring too. When Macgregor wanted him to use their ball and showed him testing with an Iron Byron he told the executives to enter the *@#$*#$ machine in the US Open. When he started his equipment company he scrapped the first year’s production because it didn’t meet his standards. And yeah, the money was a concern. He got mad at an amateur at the Masters with mismatched clubs and sent him Hogans I think.
So yeah, Hogan could play very well with mediocre or bad clubs. But he practiced too hard to settle for that. As do many others. Why would you work hard and not give a rip about your equipment?
It’s a false choice. Practice AND get your equipment to a level you want it. Yes there is a point where more $ isn’t going to matter. Yes, some people have smaller budgets than others. But it makes a lot of sense to pay attention to equipment if you practice.
And a nice thing about golf is there are fewer equipment knockers. It is good for the industry that 18 handicappers don’t get a ration of crap if they buy the latest driver or putter.
And I hate to say it given how much I like him as a player. IMO Nicklaus would have been better with a different ball. Google it if interested.
I have had a few things that were too good for everyday use. Never used any of them. Regret not using them. I strongly advise playing with and enjoying the cues or at least the very best one. The day will come when you are glad you did!
Hu
My cue is a custom, signed and dated, made to my specifications, leaving the cue maker creativity in the make.
It is my everyday player.
Planning on building a cue at the Expo this year. It will be signed and dated also and that one will be my new everyday player.
billiards_watch
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This is exactly what I want to hear.
billiards_watch
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That is exactly what "its the Indian not the arrow" means. If you say otherwise you are saying an expensive cue helps you make more balls and play better position.
xX-Wizard-Xx
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Knowledge is power ... If you don't have knowledge the arrow is useless no matter the cost
This voice of reason doesn’t belong with most of the posts in this thread…..they would send Doc Holliday to the OK Corral with a Saturday Night Special.
Dude, you said it yourself... You can play with anything. That's the Indian. The fact that kimosabè wants a nice axe is personal preference. Not the arrow. Looks like I came a bit late to the party!!
The best archer I ever saw was Lord Toranaga on Shogun, in a tent at night he shoots through a wall and buries an aroow in the post Blackthorne was talking about. That's some pretty good arrowing imo.!
Glad to hear Hans.
It's the Indian not the arrow.
It's about stroke and demeanor at the table, not about the alcohol consumed or the latest ultra ultra soft tip.
The rails are your friends if you even know that means. Think inside english, which is called for more than you probably think.
I made my dad crazy in my early days of stock car racing. I would find a better component and give my old one away to someone that it represented an improvement to. My dad saw me do this over and over. Dad, a tight man with a dollar didn't understand. The reason was simple, once I found better, no way was I going back to an inferior component.
While some battles are won in spite of the weapon, more are won with skill and a well built tool. I have my doubts if those saying it is all indian have played with a really good cue. I remember a story of Jay's. He was going through a dozen or more higher end cues for a purchaser. Most he OK'ed, one he questioned. It didn't feel quite right. Turns out the rest were original, that one had the butt cap replaced in a good shop.
Nice equipment including cues isn't a must for playing well, nice equipment does make things easier. For beginners, it shortens the learning curve. If six or eight hundred is pocket change, get a six or eight hundred dollar stick. Today, I would start with a CF shaft too. Odds are you are going there, no sense learning how to play with wood and having to relearn how to play with CF.
Hu
This thread started on February 31, so I’m not going to credit it as an April Fools prank.
They only made a couple hundred before the went to the 1911A1 after ARMY testing.
Do you really have a pre-A 1911 ???
billiards_watch
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The greatest platform ever.
Thats like me!!!!! When I get to the table to shoot the room goes silent and everyone turns their heads to watch me "spin the rock". All I hear is ooohhhhhh and aaaahhhhhhh and lots of applauding.
