oldnovice said:
Arnot Wadsworth said:
That was his position on the subject, the last I knew of. He was very much against the use of ivory, he said, 'it brought bad karma'.cueman said:
After having my Schon's taper modified and an aftermarket ivory ferrule installed, I am beginning to think the definition of 'bad karma' = 'great hit'.RSB-Refugee said:
I also installed a a white-tail antler (buckhorn) ferrule (sleeved) on an old Dufferin Hi-Run, I love the way it feels. They can be found in the woods without hurting the deer, if you are woried about karma.Murray Tucker said:
I have short rod of MCB with a .625 id. It's pitted. I can't use it at all.Murray Tucker said:
The Ivory ban was enacted in 1989. No Ivory, whether tusks or carved figurenes, can be imported after that date. Any Elephant Ivory in the USA, before that date, can be sold or traded. The Ivory that I buy,comes with a certificate that tells when the animal was killed & where. The only exeption to the law is that if you go to one of the 10 countries that still allow killing of Elephants, to cull out the herds, the Ivory can be brought in as "ESTATE IVORY". This Ivory CAN NOT be sold, until the person who killed the animal has died. It can then be sold as part of his estate. Freshly killed elephant Ivory has to be aged(dryed), before it is useable, so only old Ivory is good for use in pool cues. This is the way I read the law. Hope this helps...JERnipponbilliards said:
I failed to mention that WALRUS TUSKS are also regulated by the US FISH & GAME DEPARTMENT. As I understand it, Walrus tusks can ONLY be harvested by American Eskimos. They can sell them or use them as they see fit, BUT they can not be sold outside of the state in which they were killed. So unless you keep it in Alaska, you can't even use it in a pool cue...JERBLACKHEARTCUES said:
Joe, I like to see you, Dennis D and FL together at a restaurant.classiccues said:Karma shwarma... Do you think there is bad moo-moo karma in every tip, or bad slimey karma in every lizard or snakeskin wrap, or bad woodpecker karma in every log? I like ivory over every substitue I have tried. I also have sold cues that are over 40 years old with the original ferrules in place. So durability is not an issue, correct installation, now that might be an issue.
Joe (---PETA means People for Enjoying Tastey Animals
Most were shot on Safaris by US citizens before 1989. Others were purchased by people visiting Africa before 1989. Most of those tusks will have at least some minor carving on them. The elephant population must be kept at a certain level, just like the deer population here must be. So many African countries allow a certain amount of elephants to be harvested. They have permits, rules and regulations for where, when and how. The legal killing of Elephants has not been much of a problem in decades. It is the poachers that cause the problems. I used to have an ivory source that quit the Ivory business in 1989. He said he once viewed a public hanging of poachers there. So the governments take it pretty serious over there. I am told that Game and Fish takes it for granted that any ivory we have is pre-ban unless it can be proved otherwise. They do occasionally confiscate cues leaving or coming into the country with ivory in them. This is why I feel the camel bone will become more popular now for exported cues. Not all camel bone is equal in color to ivory. I had my people experiment with it until they were able to bleach it to a nice creamy ivory color. The slabs now look much better than the first cue I built with the earlier camel bone.nipponbilliards said:
cueman said:
I try to cut around the nerve as it is ugly. Some advertise it is best for cue ferrules, but who wants an ugly ferrule? I bought some ivory form a missionaries widow once, so Sherm is right about them being a source also. It was all carved but I bought it cheap.nipponbilliards said: