Ivory Handled Harvey Martin Cue ending on eBay in 30 Minutes No Reserve

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The 3/8 10 pins look like new to me. Manwon if they were replaced could that effect the value very much?
 
The 3/8 10 pins look like new to me. Manwon if they were replaced could that effect the value very much?

The pins are not 3/8 -10 they are completely original, Harvey made his own pins, this cue is a gem, and it has been fully authenticated by Deno Andrews and others.
 
"the cue should be valued at $30,000 + all I can say is Wow!!!"

i think used to be is more accurate than should be

when was it valued at that i wonder? musta been when times were better or the 30k is really high estimated value...18 large, the market has spoken.........
 
Well the bidding is over and the cue sold for $18,000 I wonder who the lucky bidder was!!:D
 
"the cue should be valued at $30,000 + all I can say is Wow!!!"

i think used to be is more accurate than should be

when was it valued at that i wonder? musta been when times were better or the 30k is really high estimated value...18 large, the market has spoken.........


Like I said, the cue is 1 of 2, the other cue sold for a little over $30,000 just a few years ago, apparently the cue was sold by Victor Stein, the author of the billiards Encyclopedia.

Hope that helps.
 
i swear i was going to bid, but..my mouse came unplugged at the last second...yeah that's the ticket
 
If you wanted close to a guaranteed return on your investment down the road, this is it.

Someone stole this cue. Period.
 
I remember hearing the cue valued at 30K a while back, who came up with that.

I guess like anything else in life, either whomever wanted to pay 30K or sell for 30K came up with that number. ;)

I'm sure a top-end Gus with full documentation in a prime market would fetch 30K.

I know it's apples and oranges, but I'm sure you get the idea. :D
 
I remember hearing the cue valued at 30K a while back, who came up with that.

Most people do not understand how rare this cue actually is, and until it was first posted on the forum months back no knew it even existed. According to the research done when Victor Stein and Paul Rubino published the Billiards encyclopedia there were 8 Martin Ivory handled cues in existence, and only one was made to break down into four pieces. The only known cue that broke down into four pieces was made for Allen Gilbert, and according to the sources listed above this cue was unique.

With the exception of the unique cue listed above all other Ivory Handled cues made by Martin had 10 individual Ivory segments in the cues handles, except the cue that was made for Allen Gilbert which only had 9. This cue was sold to a collector awhile back for $30,000+ and this is where and how that price tag came into being.

Now, the cue that just sold on eBay also broke down into four pieces and like I said above no one knew the cue even existed until it was posted here on the forum months back. I was the one who identified the cue as a cue that broke down like the other cue above, I noticed that the cue only had 9 Ivory segments in the handle by the photo's that were posted. I contacted the forum member who owned the cue and had him check it to see if it would break down, which he did and it did. That made this cue 1 of 2 of the original 8, which means that only 6 don't break down. For this cue to have sold on eBay for it did, it has given some one who can afford to own it a great opportunity to realize a large return at a later date when the market corrects.

This cue is as rare as any Gus Szamboti cue that was ever made, and Harvey Martin was truly the father of Custom cue making in America even though he isn't given credit for it by many.

Hope this information helps, for more information check out the Billiards Encyclopedia starting on page 292.
 
i know it's rare and it may fetch more in a few years, bad time to be a seller, but at the same time for the buyer, what if the prices never go back up? on this cue yeah 18 k was prolly a good buy, 30k? NFW never again, you're assuming the market " will correct" I ask what if it is correct now? prices may stop sliding sometime, but how can the reach the big levels again?
 
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Most people do not understand how rare this cue actually is, and until it was first posted on the forum months back no knew it even existed. According to the research done when Victor Stein and Paul Rubino published the Billiards encyclopedia there were 8 Martin Ivory handled cues in existence, and only one was made to break down into four pieces. The only known cue that broke down into four pieces was made for Allen Gilbert, and according to the sources listed above this cue was unique.

With the exception of the unique cue listed above all other Ivory Handled cues made by Martin had 10 individual Ivory segments in the cues handles, except the cue that was made for Allen Gilbert which only had 9. This cue was sold to a collector awhile back for $30,000+ and this is where and how that price tag came into being.

Now, the cue that just sold on eBay also broke down into four pieces and like I said above no one knew the cue even existed until it was posted here on the forum months back. I was the one who identified the cue as a cue that broke down like the other cue above, I noticed that the cue only had 9 Ivory segments in the handle by the photo's that were posted. I contacted the forum member who owned the cue and had him check it to see if it would break down, which he did and it did. That made this cue 1 of 2 of the original 8, which means that only 6 don't break down. For this cue to have sold on eBay for it did, it has given some one who can afford to own it a great opportunity to realize a large return at a later date when the market corrects.

This cue is as rare as any Gus Szamboti cue that was ever made, and Harvey Martin was truly the father of Custom cue making in America even though he isn't given credit for it by many.

Hope this information helps, for more information check out the Billiards Encyclopedia starting on page 292.

Excellent post and history on the Ivory handled Martin cues :thumbup:
Thankyou
 
i know it's rare and it may fetch more in a few years, bad time to be a seller, but at the same time for the buyer, what if the prices never go back up? on this cue yeah 18 k was prolly a good buy, 30k? NFW never again, you're assuming the market " will correct" I ask what if it is correct now? prices may stop sliding sometime, but how can the reach the big levels again?


Only time will tell, nothing is written in stone, I think we will have to agree to disagree on this subject.


Thanks for your post:)
 
Only time will tell, nothing is written in stone, I think we will have to agree to disagree on this subject.


Thanks for your post:)

I don't buy collector cues so know little about the market but it seems more likely to me that the cue that sold for 30,000.00 was actually overpriced and it would be hard to get that back out of it plus inflation. The reason for this assessment is that the first cue was sold as a one of a kind. The only one in the world. Now, apparently, this was not the case. Would the Mona Lisa be worth what it is if there were two of them?

Dick
 
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