Ivory Joint verses anything else?

[vinniebabarooch]

In your opinion, does a Ivory joint play stiffer, softer, or have more feedback than any other type of joint? Do you think there is any diffrence between a ivory piloted and a ivory flat faced joint? How do you think ivory plays compared to radial or flat faced joints?

 

[TheBook]

Do a search on this as it has been covered many times.

I read posts about feed back and it has me puzzled. I don't understand what it is. Does the cue tell you that you hit the cueball too hard, too soft or in the wrong place? I think the feedback comes more from the result.

I have 12 cues and they all have different types of joints: SS, ivory, radial pin, piloted, phenolic, flat face and conical. When I am shooting I cannot really or honestly say what the joint is by feel. I think the tip and wrap will change the feel of a cue more than the joint. I have been told that ivory makes the cue feel softer than SS but I am not that sensitive to the differences.

My opinion is the joint is basically a means to joint the shaft to the butt and the style or type is mostly for decoration.

 

[Ronoh]

does an Ivory joint play stiffer, softer, or have more feedback than any other type of joint?

Out of the three, I'd have to say it has more feedback.

Do you think there is any diffrence between an ivory piloted and an ivory flat faced joint?

Can't answer that one. I've only played with flat faced.

How do you think ivory plays compared to radial or flat faced joints?

Same as above.

 

[pooltchr]

First of all, the joint itself is not ivory. That is just the material used for the collars around the joint. You can have ivory with a radial pin, a 5/16X14 or whatever kind of joint pin you want.
That being said, I personally think the kind of connector (pin) has more to do with the feel than the joint collar itself. Stainless Steel may have a solid piece for the collar on the butt as well as the entire lower part of the joint. On the shaft, it will probably just be a SS collar.
A radial pin type joint will usually screw directly into wood where the wood inside the shaft is threaded to receive the pin. Most other joints will have a metal insert inside the end of the shaft where the pin screws in. All these factors are going to affect how the cue feels when you make contact. It's much more than just the material used in the collar.
JMHO
Steve

 

[bruin70]

In your opinion, does a Ivory joint play stiffer, softer, or have more feedback than any other type of joint? Do you think there is any diffrence between a ivory piloted and a ivory flat faced joint? How do you think ivory plays compared to radial or flat faced joints?

it plays harder than any joint EXCEPT ss(unless there's an aegis joint out there).

it has nothing to do with the stiffness of the hit. that is mainly the function of the shaftwood/taper.

piloted should have LESS feel than flatface because there is no open wood surface contact in a piloted joint.

your last question is confused....."ivory" is just the material, not the construction. "radial" describes the pin type....."flatface" describes how the joint interacts(i can't of the proper term), of which there are basically two, the flatface and the piloted.

 

[vapoolplayer]

First of all, the joint itself is not ivory. That is just the material used for the collars around the joint.

um......what about SOLID ivory joints? not all ivory joints are sleeved.

VAP

 

[pharaoh68]

um......what about SOLID ivory joints? not all ivory joints are sleeved.

VAP

Yeah. That comment confused me a little too.

 

[zeeder]

um......what about SOLID ivory joints? not all ivory joints are sleeved.

VAP

Do you mean threaded and capped or do you mean a chunk of solid ivory on top of the forearm with no wood inside it?

 

[pooltchr]

I have never seen a solid ivory joint. If they are out there, then I stand corrected. Like they say, learn something new every day. The only ivory joints I've ever seen were ivory collars, not full joints.
Steve
(still learning)